Originally posted by Robtard
Zod's attacks will only make Shaw stronger, likely stronger than he's ever been with enough hits absorbedSo how does Zod win?
He speed blitzes him and takes his head off.
He takes him into the ocean and suffocates him.
He takes him into space in miliseconds and takes care of that.
Badabing Badaboom.
A speed blitz will only make him stronger as his punches will have extra force from the added momentum.
Why would he attempt to drown him?
He wouldn't fly him into space for his first move. He's too bloodthirsty for that. He'll try and wail on him for a bit. It'll be too late to take him out of orbit by then.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He speed blitzes him and takes his head off.He takes him into the ocean and suffocates him.
He takes him into space in miliseconds and takes care of that.
Badabing Badaboom.
That won't work, sure Zod can blitz but the second he makes contact with Shaw, Shaw will absorb all the energy Zod is putting out, which would be enormous and only make Shaw stronger
That won't work either, Shaw can absorb the force beign exerted to move Shaw. Remember when Darwin tried to punch Shaw and Shaw effortlessly stopped the momentum of Darwin's arm. Also see Magneto trying to stop Shaw with the iron girders, which Shaw casually pushed aside, despite the amount of force Magneto can exert using metal as a medium
Won't work again, see above on trying to move a Shaw that can absorb the energy being used to move him
More like Floppafing Floppafloom, sorry
Originally posted by Robtard
That won't work, sure Zod can blitz but the second he makes contact with Shaw, Shaw will absorb all the energy Zod is putting outThat won't work either, Shaw can absorb the force required to move himself. Remember when Darwin tried to punch Shaw and Shaw effortlessly stopped the momentum of Darwin's arm. Also see Magneto trying to stop Shaw with the iron girders, which Shaw casually pushed aside, despite the amount of force Magneto can exert using metal as a medium
Won't work again, see above on trying to move a Shaw that can absorb the energy being used to move him
More like Floppafing Floppafloom, sorry
Lol no, he can lift him. His anti gravity is strong enough to resit the gravity of black hole.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lol no, he can lift him. His anti gravity is strong enough to resit the gravity of black hole.
It's not that Shaw would exert more power in countering the lift, it's that Shaw would absorb and thereby negate said force. ie the harder Zod tries to lift Shaw, the more powerful Shaw gets
It's also ridiculous to assume Zod would attempt to take Shaw into space as his first attack, but even if he did, it would fail
Zod is durable enough to tank any absorption attacks Shaw can muster after absorbing a Zod combo, he'd then know about Shaws strength and respond accordingly, I think you're wrong about Zod being able to lift Shaw off the ground, and even if you're right about the absorption nullifying Zods strength all he has to do is grab him by his clothing and fling him into space, once that happens its game over for Shaw
Originally posted by NemeBroYou got anything to back up the idea that Zod is faster than the speed of thought? Any number figure for the speed of thought to compare to Zods speed feats? Because if you don't, you're wrong. Shaw isn't anything anyone would consider fast, but he should be able to activate his powers before Zod attacks.
It doesn't matter what you think. You're wrong.The speed of thought isn't particularly fast.
That doesn't stop him from being dragged out to space, but you are massively overselling Zod no different than how everyone else in this thread is massively overselling Shaw.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's not that Shaw would exert more power in countering the lift, it's that Shaw would absorb and thereby negate said force. ie the harder Zod tries to lift Shaw, the more powerful Shaw getsIt's also ridiculous to assume Zod would attempt to take Shaw into space as his first attack, but even if he did, it would fail
There is no way to assume he can absorb anti gravity.
Originally posted by Robtard
Nah, he kept punching Kal despite causing virtually no damage. His butt-rage and built-in aggression would make him throw at least eleven punches, likely far more including heat-vision and throwing large objects at ShawBut how do you see Zod winning if Zod's only throwing one punch and then stopping?
Also of note, Shaw is seemingly able to multiple the energy he's absorbed when using it. Notice how he absorbed one RPG and a few hundred rounds, but was able to convert that into a far greater explosion when he took out the stairs? So even the energy of one Zod punch would make Shaw extremely powerful
Kal's body actually reacted to the hits. Shaw on the other hand would basically stop Zods punches and he wouldn't budge. You're really telling me that wouldn't cause Zod to at least question what the fudge just happened? Not to mention the weird tremor reaction Shaw's body undergoes while absorbing energy. Red flags all over the place.
I don't see Shaw holding onto the power Zod gives him long enough to completely destroy Zod. Anytime Shaw is attacked, except his fight with Magneto cuz they had history and whatnot, he basically took energy and immediately unleashed it to kill/harm his enemies. He never once to my knowledge, and it's been a while since I've seen this movie so correct me if I'm mistaken, took more than an initial assault before attacking back. Therefore I see the fight starting off like this:
Zod rushes Shaw and lands a punch to his face. Shaw does his weird Matrix thing where his body vibrates and Zods punch is effectly stopped. Zod's eyes widen as he tries to grasp what the hell just happened. Shaw smiles and delivers an uppercut sending Zod flying. Zod regains his composure and decides he'll try heat vision. Same result. Zod is stunned. Shaw releases the energy again, this time in the form of a blast. Zod is again rocked or he evades, either way he needs to come up with a different approach.
I think we can agree that's how it would likely go with certain details shifted a bit. But after seeing Shaw no sell his shit twice Zod would likely try to change his approach. Even if he doesn't know fully that Shaw is absorbing his attacks, he would likely consider Shaw is redirecting his power back at him. So that's where Zod would need to get more exotic with space or water or just placing his hand over Shaw's mouth and nose.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's interesting how DC characters will either overload Shaw or suddenly realize(IE after only 1 punch) that just punching Shaw won't work and immediately try other options, yet anytime he faces a Marvel character it's assumed that sed character will just keep punching/shooting him and that he'll never overload.
Its characters not companies that make me think the way I do. IE I wouldn't think Hulk would fight smart against Shaw cuz he's not a very smart character. He would smash and smash until Shaw was either powerful enough to kill him or until Shaw was overloaded. I think the former is more likely.
Zod on the otherhand was a smarter guy. He was only "raging" during certain times that were understandable. His home planet was dying and Jor was trying to send the only hope of continuing the race away. Or when the last hope for Krypton was destroyed by Kal to save the humans. But look at how easily he controlled his power, or how he flew for the first time and had enough control to give Supes a run for his money. Also the Smallville fight. Kal beat his face in and Zod stood up calmly like "ok let's go then I guess". No raging. He's a thinker and I see him trying other means besides trying to punch Shaw's face off forever. Just my opinion