Ignoring allies and Empowering Enemies

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are kidding right? Ok so 20 years ago when Israeli gave up all that great land to Palestine, they burned all the advanced farming buildings and laid waste to it..they don't wanna give it up cause Palestine will prolly just destroy it. Why give up a perfectly good building to have it destroyed.

You probably see that such reasoning is not really a justification for taking territory by force.

"But the mexicans were doing a poor job with it! They didn't use the factories made by US corporations"

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are kidding right? Ok so 20 years ago when Israeli gave up all that great land to Palestine, they burned all the advanced farming buildings and laid waste to it..they don't wanna give it up cause Palestine will prolly just destroy it. Why give up a perfectly good building to have it destroyed.

"I'm the first to admit we took this country from the indians but what were they doing with it anyway; shooting off bows and arrows and using seashells for money." -Norman Arbuthnot circa 1995

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are kidding right? Ok so 20 years ago when Israeli gave up all that great land to Palestine, they burned all the advanced farming buildings and laid waste to it..they don't wanna give it up cause Palestine will prolly just destroy it. Why give up a perfectly good building to have it destroyed.

Also what Rob said.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You act like its a walk in the park to be Israel. Imagine living in a world where everyone trying to take a swing at you and you have to be somewhat reserved on how you deal with it for fear of geo political ideology. Lets face it, there are more Islamic sympathizers then Israeli sympathizers.

it doesn't help their case when they bring part of it on themselves.

lmao at Time jumping on anti-semitism instead of trying to formulate a counter-argument.

It's what the Ultra Orthodox/conservative Jews love to fall back on (the ones with the funny hair and hats to you pedestrian types), any legitimate criticism of Israel's actions and it's "You hate Jews and love Hitler" remarks.

These same Jews (that live in Israel) are the ones that claim exemption from Israel's mandatory military service on "against my religious beliefs" grounds. From what I'm told and have seen a bit of, the common Israeli does not care for them.

Originally posted by krisblaze
lmao at Time jumping on anti-semitism instead of trying to formulate a counter-argument.

If you had a clue you would read the thread and see it was a joke I played on Omega.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If you had a clue you would read the thread and see it was a joke I played on Omega.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But jokes are funny.

I was mused.

Mused doesn't work like that!

bullshit, anyone that condemns Israel, condemns America.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it doesn't help their case when they bring part of it on themselves.

???

How exactly do they bring anything on themselves? They never attack anyone without provocation (except of course when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 because they thought it was an enemy ship-at least that's what they claimed). They have every right to be proactive in defending themselves when someone (like the Palestinians) has repeatedly terrorized, kidnapped, and killed their people. Everything they've done is justified.

Lol yea we really need to help these people.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4084183482001/iran-test-fires-new-strategic-weapon-on-last-day-of-drills/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lol yea we really need to help these people.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4084183482001/iran-test-fires-new-strategic-weapon-on-last-day-of-drills/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips

Hilarious how they refer to the US as "The Great Satan" as if they have any room to talk. Referring to Satan as "Great" tells you all you need to know about those despicable people.

Originally posted by Star428
???

How exactly do they bring anything on themselves? They never attack anyone without provocation (except of course when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 because they thought it was an enemy ship-at least that's what they claimed). They have every right to be proactive in defending themselves when someone (like the Palestinians) has repeatedly terrorized, kidnapped, and killed their people. Everything they've done is justified.

They are, obviously, entitled to defend themselves. But when someone shoves you, you don't run them over in your car.

when you can justify anything as being "self defence" and that anyone attacking you is somehow automatically anti-semetic (which is retarded), there's really no limit to how aggressive you'll be. which is what Israel tends to do.

Justified? Not at all, imo.

Originally posted by Star428
Hilarious how they refer to the US as "The Great Satan" as if they have any room to talk. Referring to Satan as "Great" tells you all you need to know about those despicable people.

That's not what they mean by "Great".

Originally posted by Star428
???

How exactly do they bring anything on themselves? They never attack anyone without provocation (except of course when they attacked the USS Liberty in 1967 because they thought it was an enemy ship-at least that's what they claimed). They have every right to be proactive in defending themselves when someone (like the Palestinians) has repeatedly terrorized, kidnapped, and killed their people. Everything they've done is justified.

The USS Liberty is symptomatic of Israeli paranoia and heavy handedness.

We have to recognize that while Israel is still surrounded by unfriendly nations, it hasn't been a scrappy underdog for years now. There are only four nations in the Middle East who could fight the Israelis on even terms: Turkey, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia will never make trouble with Israel for three reasons: lack of incentive, their mutual partnership with the United States, and their common enemy in Iran. Turkish-Israeli relations have suffered since the flotilla incident and due to both nations being led by posturing idiots who like to project a tough guy image, but once again there's not nearly enough incentive for either to go to war. Egypt also won't go to war with Israel because of their treaty and because both nations see that their long term stability is tied to peace. Iran is the only country that might actually go to war with Israel, and if they do they don't have a common border (and both nations lack the power projection necessary to wage real war on the other's home soil), so any real open war would be an air war, which Israel would win handily.

With regards to Israel and its neighbors, the old saying about spiders applies here: they're [Arabs] more afraid of you [Israel] than you are of them.

Im glad Omega sleeps better at night knowing Iran is getting nukes.

Delusional

Where did he say that, exactly?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Where did he say that, exactly?

Its his general not giving two fck attitude in all things politics and agreeing with everything this administration does.