Ignoring allies and Empowering Enemies

Started by Robtard6 pages

TI,

Do you think Iran wants to build nukes in order to do what? Mushroom cloud Israel or the US?

Ask yourself, what would they gain except a nuclear holocaust in return tenfold.

Also, why aren't you freaking out over NK who has nuclear weapons and actively makes threats?

Originally posted by Robtard
TI,

Do you think Iran wants to build nukes in order to do what? Mushroom cloud Israel or the US?

Ask yourself, what would they gain except a nuclear holocaust in return tenfold.

Also, why aren't you freaking out over NK who has nuclear weapons and actively makes threats?

Yes they would use them against US and Israel we are the "Great Satan"

They don't care if they die, because of radical beliefs.

North Korea does not fund terrorism. Iran does.

TI, if they didn't care about dying they would have already waged war on Israel.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes they would use them against US and Israel we are the "Great Satan"

They don't care if they die, because of radical beliefs.

North Korea does not fund terrorism. Iran does.

Just so I'm perfectly clear: You're convinced Iran wants nukes because its leaders hate he US and Israel so much that they would rather die along with million of their own people just to give the US and/or Israel a black-eye?

Hmm. George W. Bush named N. Korea as part of his "Axis of Evil" and claimed N. Korea funded terrorism, this happened in 2002

Originally posted by Robtard
Just so I'm perfectly clear: You're convinced Iran wants nukes because its leaders hate he US and Israel so much that they would rather die along with million of their own people just to give the US and/or Israel a black-eye?

Hmm. George W. Bush named N. Korea as part of his "Axis of Evil" and claimed N. Korea funded terrorism, this happened in 2002

Nonsense.

To?

Netanyahu: "Iran is a global threat."

I guess Israel counts as the whole world to Netanyahu.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes they would use them against US and Israel we are the "Great Satan"

They don't care if they die, because of radical beliefs.

North Korea does not fund terrorism. Iran does.


Lolwut? Yes they do. They sell weapons all the time to regimes you'd consider terror sponsors, thus making them terrorist sponsors in turn.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Netanyahu: "Iran is a global threat."

I guess Israel counts as the whole world to Netanyahu.

Lolwut? Yes they do. They sell weapons all the time to regimes you'd consider terror sponsors, thus making them terrorist sponsors in turn.

Wow I guess Nuclear weapons on missiles are not a world wide problem. To you I guess Iran should have nukes.

The problem about Iran getting nukes is less about geopolicy than about the simple fact allowing countries into having force the frappe is risky. The bigger the club gets the more likely someone will act sloppy with those misiles.

Of course Israel wouldn't want Iran to have the bomb, they've been waging a Cold War with them for décades. The US democrats are trying to make Iran allies instead of bitter enemies. If this continues expect the "Great Satan" rethorics to drop, or to be used solely for Israel.

Such a disgrace that Obama would not even meet with Netanyahu.

He's more mad at Bibi for talking to Congress, then he is Putin for murdering all the Ukrainians.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Netanyahu speech was awesome.

Yeah, I liked it too.

Originally posted by Mindset
TI, if they didn't care about dying they would have already waged war on Israel.

Yeah, but they know that attacking Israel conventionally won't kill nearly as many Israelis as using a nuke would. The Israeli military is no joke compared to a pathetic country like Iran. If Iran tried a full-scale invasion of Israel they wouldn't get far before being stopped cold.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He's more mad at Bibi for talking to Congress, then he is Putin for murdering all the Ukrainians.

Obama doesn't seem to care much about his external politics, he is offended at Netanyahu because his actions are aimed at internal politics.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Wow I guess Nuclear weapons on missiles are not a world wide problem. To you I guess Iran should have nukes.

They won't be. Iran's ambitions are regional. Even if they got a nuke, it would remain a regional problem.

And no, get off this ridiculous "Omega wants a nuclear Iran" kick. Even you don't believe that, you'll just say anything to strawman an opponent.

Originally posted by Bentley
Obama doesn't seem to care much about his external politics, he is offended at Netanyahu because his actions are aimed at internal politics.

This is what TI doesn't understand. The disgrace (which should offend ALL Americans) is that Netanyahu is interfering in American foreign policy and internal politics. I don't understand how conservatives are so myopic that they don't understand that a foreign leader just tried to hijack American policy. I mean, can you imagine if Putin addressed the congress about something as innocuous as proper lawn maintenance? Everyone would be foaming at the mouth. But because it's a supposed "ally" it's a good thing that he's using a speech to Congress to try to derail an American foreign policy initiative, sow discord between Congress and the White House, and help his own election chances back at home.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't understand how conservatives are so myopic that they don't understand that a foreign leader just tried to hijack American policy.

Because 2016 is just around the corner and anything to make Obama and by extension the Democratic party look bad/weak is a win to them.

You guys think this is political, however its not. Its common sense, prevent Iran from getting nukes at all cost is the most primary concern. The deal on the table does not prevent that.

No, it's political with a capital P.

Edit: Besides, I'm not so sure what you're worried about. Anything that Iran builds that has any remote resemblance to uranium and/or plutonium weaponizing, Israel will tactical strike it out of the dessert since they couldn't give two shits what anyone else thinks. Likely with missiles secretly sent from the US as the punch-line.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

This is what TI doesn't understand. The disgrace (which should offend ALL Americans) is that Netanyahu is interfering in American foreign policy and internal politics. I don't understand how conservatives are so myopic that they don't understand that a foreign leader just tried to hijack American policy. I mean, can you imagine if Putin addressed the congress about something as innocuous as proper lawn maintenance? Everyone would be foaming at the mouth. But because it's a supposed "ally" it's a good thing that he's using a speech to Congress to try to derail an American foreign policy initiative, sow discord between Congress and the White House, and help his own election chances back at home. [/B]

What you don't understand is that most of our politicians are funded by the zionist state as well as other global governments. Sure if you look at all the Pac Money donors, it will seem its only just good old USA folks that are funding the GOP and Dems. That is a bit naive.

The fact he can address both houses of Congress and have an audience, that is some clout there. Grandstanding of course. But let's not kid ourselves, the USA is the tail of the dog, Israel is the rest of the dog.

Originally posted by SayWhat
What you don't understand is that most of our politicians are funded by the zionist state as well as other global governments. Sure if you look at all the Pac Money donors, it will seem its only just good old USA folks that are funding the GOP and Dems. That is a bit naive.

The fact he can address both houses of Congress and have an audience, that is some clout there. Grandstanding of course. But let's not kid ourselves, the USA is the tail of the dog, Israel is the rest of the dog.

Bullshit.