Originally posted by Sinious
I'm really not following the logic here. So Anakin could become as powerful as the Father but Vitiate becoming x10000000000000000000 more powerful isn't enough to defeat them?
Your "logic" is informed by a well established bias for Vitiate. We went through this: The Mortis Anchorites are a universal threat. That's above Vitiate and Sidious.
Accept Viti's inferiority and move on. You don't see me claiming Sidious can win this despite the hype surrounding his DE incarnation. Learn from my example and wisdom and move on.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your "logic" is informed by a well established bias for Vitiate. We went through this: The Mortis Anchorites are a universal threat. That's above Vitiate and Sidious.Accept Viti's inferiority and move on. You don't see me claiming Sidious can win this despite the hype surrounding his DE incarnation. Learn from my example and wisdom and move on.
LMAO Its not about Vitiate being above someone. This version of Vitiate will never become reality and it shows your bias to think that I'm wanking someone every time we disagree. I already consider him inferior to much weaker characters than the ones like Luke or that dude in my avatar. 😉
There are 3 claims here:
1) Anakin's potential = Sidious x 2
2) Anakin's potential = The Father
3) The Father > Vitiate x 1000000000000000000000
So which one is to be taken seriously? Or do you actually believe that Anakin prime = The father = Sidious x2 > a galaxy wide deity
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your "logic" is informed by a well established bias for Vitiate. We went through this: The Mortis Anchorites are a universal threat. That's above Vitiate and Sidious.
Not everyone seems to agree that the Ones are a universal threat. See below:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t608508.html
If the One's were truly a Universal threat, then surely it would ridiculous to believe that even a strike team of that caliber would stand a chance against even a single one of them.
Originally posted by Sinious
LMAO Its not about Vitiate being above someone. This version of Vitiate will never become reality and it shows your bias to think that I'm wanking someone every time we disagree. I already consider him inferior to much weaker characters than the ones like Luke or that dude in my avatar. 😉There are 3 claims here:
1) Anakin's potential = Sidious x 2
2) Anakin's potential = The Father
3) The Father > Vitiate x 1000000000000000000000So which one is to be taken seriously? Or do you actually believe that Anakin prime = The father = Sidious x2 > a galaxy wide deity
facepalm
The fact that this incarnation of Vitiate doesn't even exist within the lore makes your rabid eagerness more disturbing, not less. We get it: you desperately fantasize for scenarios in which Viti stacks up against or surpasses other established badasses and now your only recourse is for the occasional thread such as this where you feel you may be vindicated. But it isn't so.
For all my "bias" for Sidious... you don't see me claiming he'd do anything other than die horribly against a Mortis Anchorite, his vast feats and accolades notwithstanding.
The Mortis Anchorites were, according to the damn show, threats to the very fabric of the universal. Galaxy!Fantasy!Vitiate is still many orders of magnitude below that.
The Anchorites/Abeloth shitstomp these two.
{Lucas's proclamation about Anakin being 2x Sidious was before the Mortis Anchorites even existed in the lore. Which wouldn't be a problem if the lore didn't subsequently contradict it. The Father's Children = universal threats that needed to be quarantined in a temporal fold/pocket universe. The Father > Children and Anakin = or > The Father. So the only way Lucas's proclamation holds true now is if Sidious himself is approaching the Anchorites in power... which is an absolutely stupid contention to make... but hey, maybe you give Palps more credit than even I do. 👆 }
Originally posted by The_Tempest
facepalmThe fact that this incarnation of Vitiate doesn't even exist within the lore makes your rabid eagerness more disturbing, not less. We get it: you desperately fantasize for scenarios in which Viti stacks up against or surpasses other established badasses and now your only recourse is for the occasional thread such as this where you feel you may be vindicated. But it isn't so.
For all my "bias" for Sidious... you don't see me claiming he'd do anything other than die horribly against a Mortis Anchorite, his vast feats and accolades notwithstanding.
For someone at your age, this level of immaturity and aggression over a fictional character is really impressive.
The Mortis Anchorites were, according to the damn show, threats to the very fabric of the universal. Galaxy!Fantasy!Vitiate is still many orders of magnitude below that.The Anchorites/Abeloth shitstomp these two.
{Lucas's proclamation about Anakin being 2x Sidious was before the Mortis Anchorites even existed in the lore. Which wouldn't be a problem if the lore didn't subsequently contradict it. The Father's Children = universal threats that needed to be quarantined in a temporal fold/pocket universe. The Father > Children and Anakin = or > The Father. So the only way Lucas's proclamation holds true now is if Sidious himself is approaching the Anchorites in power... which is an absolutely stupid contention to make... but hey, maybe you give Palps more credit than even I do. 👆 }
Well see, now I know what you agree with or what you don't on the 3 claims that are being made regarding the issue here. You make it sound like I'm speaking heresy but many people would disagree with what you said here. From all this, I understand that you believe that Anakin prime = The Father = a universal power
I for example lol @ the fact that you think Anakin(who is more or less on Obi-wan Kenobi's level after all those years of training) could become a universal power.
Does it actually make sense to you that Anakin would be THAT powerful one day? Don't you think being Sidsx2 is a much more accurate estimate? You ignore all the details in the entire franchise that hint Anakin's potential's limits just because there are some vague accolades about the Father that says otherwise yet when it comes to other eras of EU, you ignore vague accolades completely. Well done. 👆
Originally posted by Sinious
For someone at your age, this level of immaturity and aggression over a fictional character is really impressive.
Your bitterness over the fact that Viti can't hope to win this match has completely overwhelmed your ability to reason, my son.
What I do, I do for you. 👆
Originally posted by Sinious
Well see, now I know what you agree with or what you don't on the 3 claims that are being made regarding the issue here. You make it sound like I'm speaking heresy but many people would disagree with what you said here.
Those illusory "many people" would be just as wrong as you are. Do the numbers comfort you?
Originally posted by Sinious
From all this, I understand that you believe that Anakin prime = The Father = a universal power
Originally posted by Sinious
I for example lol @ the fact that you think Anakin(who is more or less on Obi-wan Kenobi's level after all those years of training) could become a universal power.
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You... don't seriously think I mean the Anakin Skywalker we typically see is a universal power, do you?
Me
Your bitterness over the fact that Viti can't hope to win this match has completely overwhelmed your ability to reason, my son.
👆
Originally posted by Sinious
Does it actually make sense to you that Anakin would be THAT powerful one day? Don't you think being Sidsx2 is a much more accurate estimate? You ignore all the details in the entire franchise that hint Anakin's potential's limits just because there are some vague accolades about the Father that says otherwise yet when it comes to other eras of EU, you ignore vague accolades completely. Well done. 👆
facepalm
That you lowball Anakin's capabilities to make Vitiate's prospects against him more enticing is transparent. Anakin is The Father's chosen successor and the guy who brought two universal threats to the curb. He'd stomp Sidious and he'd stomp Vitiate. Sack up and digest your man's inadequacies.
TCW declared the Mortis Anchorites "more powerful in the Force than any ever encountered" and that the reason The Father sequestered his children was because they threatened the universe.
That's beyond Vitiate. Deal with it. 👆