Originally posted by riv6672fair enough, but judging just by his stats isn't accurate enough when you look at his showings as well.
I hate the guy.
I can still call a fight honestly, unlike 70% of the posters here. I wouldnt back one of my favorite characters, Cage, against BB, just because i prefer him.
The fact that i looked up BBs stats to make an informed choice instead of giving you a standardShould speak for itself. But probably wont.
Originally posted by riv6672
Going just off those stips, Namor.
Checking several bios, he's averagely a 1 tonner who can amp himself to class 60.Thats assuming using his energy manip is allowed for him to amp.
Otherwise he's going in with a huge power gap, this being purely physical.
Energy manip is also what he uses to create his Master Blow....Even allowing for those two "cheats", i give Namor the win. Namor's taken shots from a weakened version of the In Betweener, the Hulk, Hercules...tanking BBs best shot is something he can do, and BB is then weakened for a time to boot.
I've seen enough that, when amping, I'd say he's higher than class 60.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
fair enough, but judging just by his stats isn't accurate enough when you look at his showings as well.
Not looking to derail your thread with my bs though. Good fight, either way.
hmm, i'd love to see some in-comic proof that he is 'amping' in any of his h2h fights. bb has tanked a blow from the the hulk and ko'd him (karnak told him where to strike but it was stated that bb was NEARLY as strong as hulk...) he has also ko'd him easily with a voice blast. bb has also had an advantage on gladiator in h2h combat on 2 occasions and stalemated him in a brief battle on another and he's even battled and gotten the better of the sphinx h2h who is easily a high cl100.
to think he is merely a cl60 guy--amped--is....ridiculous. again, anytime someone wants to SHOW him amping (bios are useless and inadmissible in these things as evidence) in a book somehow, feel free. as for cl60? lol cl60's don't EASILY hang with hulk, gladiator and even thor and ikaris in h2h combat REGULARLY. his record speaks for itself. try finding anyone who has definitively defeated him in battle NOT named thanos. the list is extremely short.....
i know namor very well, enough to know this would be a very tough fight, but bolt just....rarely loses, so i'll still take him for a majority in h2h. 6/10 is fair imo. using all powers, namor likely wouldn't win 1/10.
hmm, if that was in the most recent avengers i've not read it but find it suspect at best, pis at worst. the history of that scream would dictate namor should be ko'd. add to the fact bb has already been even with namor in h2h and it makes no sense whatsoever to claim fists aren't going to do anything. will check out the new avengers stuff shortly, but even assuming you're correct for a moment does not in anyway, make the previous years and years worth of evidence null and void.
"Hulk is about to crush the life out of Black Bolt".
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt02.jpg.html
"There's no question as to who is the stronger of the two". It did state that be is close second, whatever that means.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans03.jpg.html
A single hit makes BB body go limp.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans04.jpg.html
This doesn't happen to Namor when he faces the Hulk which is one of the reasons I give Namor the majority.
Originally posted by carver9
"Hulk is about to crush the life out of Black Bolt".http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt02.jpg.html
"There's no question as to who is the stronger of the two". It did state that be is close second, whatever that means.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans03.jpg.html
A single hit makes BB body go limp.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans04.jpg.html
This doesn't happen to Namor when he faces the Hulk which is one of the reasons I give Namor the majority.
bb goes limp? hmmm.... here he utterly tanks a hit, so pick and choose i guess:
http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/aNPEv.jpg
you also showed 2 fights where bb actually DEFEATED hulk via ko, and a clear scan that stated their strengths were extremely close (which is what that was intended to mean of course.....)
so, while namor has a win underwater over hulk, bb has 2 decisive wins. i seriously doubt namor would do as well vs gladiator though. if someone wants to say split, or namor 6/10, i can sort of get that. but anyone thinking namor wins a clear majority is simply wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
"Hulk is about to crush the life out of Black Bolt".http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt02.jpg.html
"There's no question as to who is the stronger of the two". It did state that be is close second, whatever that means.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans03.jpg.html
A single hit makes BB body go limp.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans04.jpg.html
This doesn't happen to Namor when he faces the Hulk which is one of the reasons I give Namor the majority.
Quit trolling he's never lost to hulk. Move on
Originally posted by leonidas
bb goes limp? hmmm.... here he utterly tanks a hit, so pick and choose i guess:http://fdzeta.com/subir/images/aNPEv.jpg
you also showed 2 fights where bb actually DEFEATED hulk via ko, and a clear scan that stated their strengths were extremely close (which is what that was intended to mean of course.....)
so, while namor has a win underwater over hulk, bb has 2 decisive wins. i seriously doubt namor would do as well vs gladiator though. if someone wants to say split, or namor 6/10, i can sort of get that. but anyone thinking namor wins a clear majority is simply wrong.
The first fight, BB screamed and koed the both of them. The second fight, BB lifts Hulk in the air which attracts elemental forces that takes the Hulk down. He didn't physically take him out.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So when Havok stopped Hulk in his tracks, Havok ultimately lost because of how the fight ended...How did the BB/Hulk fight end?
Don't get it but the answer to your last question is, BB gains his composure, he lifts Hulk up in the air with a blast out of his atenna and nature stuns Hulk. Here is the next scan.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans05.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
The first fight, BB screamed and koed the both of them. The second fight, BB lifts Hulk in the air which attracts elemental forces that takes the Hulk down. He didn't physically take him out.
wut? bb wasn't ko'd by his scream--at all. that....doesn't even make sense. 😐 the other fight bb PUNCHED hulk out....
you show bb going limp, i show bb tanking a shot. bb has 2 clear and definitive wins over hulk, namor has one, underwater. one voice=one underwater, so....yeah. if this were underwater i'd give namor a clear advantage too in h2h.....if you think namor edges him out, i have no issue. i do take issue with misrepresentation (cl60 and amps with energy for fights....) and use of bios as a basis for a decision. looking at track records, there is simply no logical way NOT to view this as enormously close. out of water, i'll give bb the edge though. his win/loss record is definitely one of the tops in marvel comics.
Originally posted by leonidas
wut? bb wasn't ko'd by his scream--at all. that....doesn't even make sense. 😐 the other fight bb PUNCHED hulk out....you show bb going limp, i show bb tanking a shot. bb has 2 clear and definitive wins over hulk, namor has one, underwater. one voice=one underwater, so....yeah. if this were underwater i'd give namor a clear advantage too in h2h.....if you think namor edges him out, i have no issue. i do take issue with misrepresentation (cl60 and amps with energy for fights....) and use of bios as a basis for a decision. looking at track records, there is simply no logical way NOT to view this as enormously close. out of water, i'll give bb the edge though. his win/loss record is definitely one of the tops in marvel comics.
Don't think you've seen all of the fights. BB use his voice on the Hulk to the point it koes him.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt08.jpg.html
Crazy thing is Hulk tanked it, the only reason he fell was due to the ringing in his ears.
Never said BB couldn't withstand a punch from Hulk, I just don't think he can handle too many of them. I don't think any herald would one shot him.
