Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, if that was in the most recent avengers i've not read it but find it suspect at best, pis at worst. the history of that scream would dictate namor should be ko'd. add to the fact bb has already been even with namor in h2h and it makes no sense whatsoever to claim fists aren't going to do anything. will check out the new avengers stuff shortly, but even assuming you're correct for a moment does not in anyway, make the previous years and years worth of evidence null and void.
Years worth of continuity has seen namor shrug off blows from hulk,hercules,mjonir and even sentry etc,taken a nuke right on the face twice and shrugged it off,being hit by a gun that removes O2 molecules(iirc) from his body thrice and still recovered to rip out his attacker's tongue,tanked an explosion in space,fall from space into the earth's atmosphere and walk out,able to shrug off the effects of an organic fatal barrier that would have killed any other person that was there,including the likes of colossus.
Besides its not like namor shrugged It off anyway,he was knocked out I think,but recovered/healed very quickly. Black panther noted that his physiology and genetics aLlowed him to with stand that,he was also stabbed in the heart too by bp,and just healed it off,so his strength has definately grown,I remember him having to jump in water after being stabbed in the stomach by logan.
Anyhow my point is,I don't see bb having the strength to bypass the durability of namor and knock him out,while I see the other way happening. Namor's physical feats definitely outweight bb
Originally posted by Existere
so that we're clear, Apocalypse was amped a shitload during that showing, correct? Off of his machines, or Havok/Living Monolith/the 12, etc?
You're mixing it up a bit.
That was not Apocalypse from the Twelve storyline, but a much earlier one. X-Factor around early 90s.
That was after he kidnapped the inhumans/created those inhuman offshots "The Dark Riders" and was in the process of using them to power him up.
It's still a bit ambiguous whether he was powered up or just letting loose, but I remember having gone over this incident and it's confirmed in the comic that Black Bolt was only releasing a bit of sound. Even though his mouth is agape he was not screaming.
Cyclops eventually killed him by channeling the power of the Summers bloodline.
Originally posted by Genii96
Years worth of continuity has seen namor shrug off blows from hulk,hercules,mjonir and even sentry etc,taken a nuke right on the face twice and shrugged it off,being hit by a gun that removes O2 molecules(iirc) from his body thrice and still recovered to rip out his attacker's tongue,tanked an explosion in space,fall from space into the earth's atmosphere and walk out,able to shrug off the effects of an organic fatal barrier that would have killed any other person that was there,including the likes of colossus.Besides its not like namor shrugged It off anyway,he was knocked out I think,but recovered/healed very quickly. Black panther noted that his physiology and genetics aLlowed him to with stand that,he was also stabbed in the heart too by bp,and just healed it off,so his strength has definately grown,I remember him having to jump in water after being stabbed in the stomach by logan.
Anyhow my point is,I don't see bb having the strength to bypass the durability of namor and knock him out,while I see the other way happening. Namor's physical feats definitely outweight bb
well, you're certainly welcome to your opinion, but as i've already outlined i disagree. it's close, but i'll take bb for a slight majority.
Originally posted by krisblazeCool, thanks Kris.
You're mixing it up a bit.That was not Apocalypse from the Twelve storyline, but a much earlier one. X-Factor around early 90s.
That was after he kidnapped the inhumans/created those inhuman offshots "The Dark Riders" and was in the process of using them to power him up.
It's still a bit ambiguous whether he was powered up or just letting loose, but I remember having gone over this incident and it's confirmed in the comic that Black Bolt was only releasing a bit of sound. Even though his mouth is agape he was not screaming.
Cyclops eventually killed him by channeling the power of the Summers bloodline.
Originally posted by krisblaze
You're mixing it up a bit.That was not Apocalypse from the Twelve storyline, but a much earlier one. X-Factor around early 90s.
That was after he kidnapped the inhumans/created those inhuman offshots "The Dark Riders" and was in the process of using them to power him up.
It's still a bit ambiguous whether he was powered up or just letting loose, but I remember having gone over this incident and it's confirmed in the comic that Black Bolt was only releasing a bit of sound. Even though his mouth is agape he was not screaming.
Cyclops eventually killed him by channeling the power of the Summers bloodline.