Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dont read scans, i read actual whole complete comics so I'll pass. What are you saying? Are u implying thay black bolt didn't beat hulk straight up?
What did you get from the fight? What I got was, Hulk was lifted in the air and as stated in the scan, BB wouldn't be able to hold him up there for long. Then, it states that he doesn't have to because nature stunned Hulk. Did you see anything different?
Other fight, BB screams and it takes him out. Hulk is still standing but the ringing in his ears drops him. Double ko. Third fight, no winner, both becomes friends in the end.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't think you've seen all of the fights. BB use his voice on the Hulk to the point it koes him.http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt08.jpg.html
Crazy thing is Hulk tanked it, the only reason he fell was due to the ringing in his ears.
Never said BB couldn't withstand a punch from Hulk, I just don't think he can handle too many of them. I don't think any herald would one shot him.
um, carv, that didn't ko bb. it weakened him obviously (he has never been that weakened from a voice before that i recall, but whatever) but he was NOT ko'd. nearly expended? sure, but who cares because hulk, otoh, WAS ko'd by it. not sure how you can say he tanked it when it was clearly what ko'd him in the end..... unless you think the ringing in his ears was what, a mosquito...?
that makes 3 times bb has ko'd hulk. pretty definitive record no matter how you look at it.
in case anyone is counting:
(1) http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt08.jpg.html
(2) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181559-black+bolt+beats+hulk
(3) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181540-black+bolt+vs+hulk+1
(4) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111271/2972634-vhulk37dh.jpg
the above is a win since you seem to count going limp as a victory....
Originally posted by leonidas
in case anyone is counting:(1) http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt08.jpg.html
(2) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181559-black+bolt+beats+hulk
(3) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181540-black+bolt+vs+hulk+1
(4) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111271/2972634-vhulk37dh.jpg
the above is a win since you seem to count going limp as a victory....
The third one isn't a ko. The second one did drop Hulk. The one where BB punch him with the Master blow, Hulk was ok afterwards as shown here.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans03.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsInhumans04.jpg.html
The other time Hulk was stunned, BB didn't do it, nature did. Black Bolt was obviously out during that scream...he was helpless but Hulk didnt drop. This doesn't help your argument since BB does poorly against Hulk physically.
Originally posted by carver9
The third one isn't a ko.
i was trying to find the remaining scan. 👆
The other time Hulk was stunned, BB didn't do it, nature did.
it was bb who SUMMONED the lightning but reversing the polarity. of course he gets credit for the win. 😐 if storm summoned lightning, would you say nature did it?? or when thor does, is it nature?? by reversing polarity, bb knew exactly what was going to happen.
Black Bolt was obviously out during that scream...he was helpless but Hulk didnt drop.
😐
bb was still on his knees, weak, but conscious. hulk took a step to finish him and was ko'd. so, you're right in the sense that the exact opposite of what you said was true.
This doesn't help your argument since BB does poorly against Hulk physically.
lol have you actually SEEN any of the fights?? he does VERY well. tanking shots, being explicitly stated to be extremely close to hulk's strength....sure hulk is stronger, but bb does just fine. but it's not JUST hulk we look at, and bb's record is second to absolutely no one.
so, 3 wins if we count going limp as a win--which is YOUR definition, btw, not mine. and there are the gladiator battles, the sphinx battle and even the ikaris battle that all support the idea that bb is absolutely cl100 and clearly in namor's class. at least.
http://s55.photobucket.com/user/SpunkySmurph/media/Marvel/StrengthNamor.jpg.html
Black Bolt one-shots Namor into a hydroelectric damn.
EDIT: And, if memory serves, in this fight his electron powers were screwy and he couldn't amp. Might be worth fact-checking that though, it's been a little while since I've read the whole issue.
Originally posted by abhilegend😂 I was JUST about to come back and post that you pointed out that Namor came back later that fight.
Namor came back two pages later. There was no indication that he was koed. Under the same writer both were damn near equal in h2h.
Right, well, impressive nonetheless. I think they've both improved since then too by quite a bit.
Looking it over again, I'd say it's pretty highly open to interpretation - Namor IS seen in the issue again, but only after Black Bolt is "KO'd" (he's faking it), and he returns with the caption
"One by one the monsters gather -- gloating and revelling in the prince's capture"
http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/abhilegend/media/Marvel/FantasticFourv141117.jpg.html
Which implies some passage of time. Namor was, at least, hit hard enough that he was removed from the fight, however temporarily. Given that he was shot into water - which, in the past, has been a strong enough boost to instantly recover him from a Wolverine claw attack (iirc) - makes it, as we've both agreed, a pretty impressive showing.
Originally posted by leonidas
in case anyone is counting:(1) http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBlackBolt08.jpg.html
(2) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181559-black+bolt+beats+hulk
(3) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125504/4181540-black+bolt+vs+hulk+1
(4) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111271/2972634-vhulk37dh.jpg
the above is a win since you seem to count going limp as a victory....
(5)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fallhulk2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fallhulk3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fallhulk4.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegendThat scream was dumb. Especially when Hickman had half power BB ko Namor with a whisper.
Yeah, it's pretty impressive.The thing is Namor fluctuates too much. Sometimes he gets his crap kicked out by shulkie and sometimes he takes a point blank scream from bolt and just gets stunned for a few moments.
It seemed he forgot what Namor got hit with in the next issue.
Originally posted by Existere
Looking it over again, I'd say it's pretty highly open to interpretation - Namor IS seen in the issue again, but only after Black Bolt is "KO'd" (he's faking it), and he returns with the caption"One by one the monsters gather -- gloating and revelling in the prince's capture"
http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/abhilegend/media/Marvel/FantasticFourv141117.jpg.html
Which implies some passage of time. Namor was, at least, hit hard enough that he was removed from the fight, however temporarily. Given that he was shot into water - which, in the past, has been a strong enough boost to instantly recover him from a Wolverine claw attack (iirc) - makes it, as we've both agreed, a pretty impressive showing.
And the fact that just ten issues ago namor stalemated a full powered bolt.
