2016 Presidencial Race

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Do any of these candidates have any plans to subdue the ISIS threat?

So far, it seems only Rand Paul has something to say about it.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Do any of these candidates have any plans to subdue the ISIS threat?

So far, it seems only Rand Paul has something to say about it.

Obama dropped the ball on ISIS, its up to the middle east now to deal with them.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Obama dropped the ball on ISIS, its up to the middle east now to deal with them.

Most, if not all, of the GCC countries are at least passive supporters of the Islamic State, as well as other Islamic nations in Asia and Africa.

They'll only grow in number without the intervention of the Allied forces.

What Allied forces?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7284558

Bush called out.

Its bullshit to blame Obama for ISIS. As soon as he sends troops there under an official capacity, the public will be bytching that he's starting another Iraq War. It's not his fault the public is war weary, and the kid is right. Bush's invasion is pretty much the direct cause of IS.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Its bullshit to blame Obama for ISIS. As soon as he sends troops there under an official capacity, the public will be bytching that he's starting another Iraq War. It's not his fault the public is war weary, and the kid is right. Bush's invasion is pretty much the direct cause of IS.

Didn't he support the Syrian rebels that helped them?

Which again goes back to when the American public as bytching that he wasn't doing anything in Syria. Seems the American public enjoys criticising Obama for not doing stuff and then criticising him once he does it. Nation of hypocrites lol.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

Pretty sure Christie is fatter than that and his pannus is much bigger.

Edit - Also, he'd be floppier.

Originally posted by Shey Tapani
Didn't he support the Syrian rebels that helped them?

You could just as well argue that by not offering enough support to non-ISIS rebels, nations opposed to the Assad regime in Syria created a situation that allowed ISIS to become what it is now. The Syrian Civil War has little to nothing to do with anything America's ever done in the Middle East or the Arab World (that isn't me excusing the ridiculous, awful policies America has had, only clarifying an oversimplification). The nation was a powder keg waiting to go off. Actually, Bashar Al-Assad is probably more to blame than anyone for ISIS's rise because very early on he cynically framed the conflict as a Sectarian one, pitting him and his Alawites and other minorities (Christians, Kurds, other Shi'ite sects) against the majority Sunnis.* ISIS has been able to thrive in Iraq and Syria because both nations are cauldrons of Sunni-Shi'ite tensions.

*There's also evidence that Al-Assad and ISIS for a long time were securing each others flanks by essentially avoiding one another. ISIS ground down the less extreme, politically motivated rebels while Al-Assad bought oil from ISIS. In the last year, after ISIS looted enough weaponry from Iraq to take the fight to Al-Assad, this arrangement came crashing down and now pretty much every time the Syrian Government faces off against ISIS they lose, badly. Al-Assad should have learned a lesson from the Roman Empire that trying to play off "barbarians" against each other eventually comes back to bite you.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

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Originally posted by Lestov16
Which again goes back to when the American public as bytching that he wasn't doing anything in Syria. Seems the American public enjoys criticising Obama for not doing stuff and then criticising him once he does it. Nation of hypocrites lol.

There were people on the streets demanding Assad's head? letter/email campaign? Nope, it was elite driven like all foreign adventures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Lol, TI, they know your thinks.

Stop voting strategically guys.

"I don't like candidate x, but he's the best one out of the two".

Keep this up and you'll never get out of that shit system 👆

Nobody should force you to vote between to shit candidates.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Stop voting strategically guys.

"I don't like candidate x, but he's the best one out of the two".

Keep this up and you'll never get out of that shit system 👆

Nobody should force you to vote between to shit candidates.


It's easy to say that when you won't live with the direct consequence of people not voting strategically. 👆

I agree in principle but not in practice. I threw away a vote once to Jill Stein's Green Party and all I got out of it was the subject for a poem.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Lol, TI, they know your thinks.

The Right is deathly afraid of this woman 👆

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's easy to say that when you won't live with the direct consequence of people not voting strategically. 👆

I agree in principle but not in practice. I threw away a vote once to Jill Stein's Green Party and all I got out of it was the subject for a poem.

Besides symbolic nonsense how is the country different when Repubs or Dems are elected?

Originally posted by Shey Tapani
Besides symbolic nonsense how is the country different when Repubs or Dems are elected?

Dude, I live in a state run by Republicans who are slashing funding to Humanities education (particularly the Fine Arts), have made it nigh-illegal to use the words "climate change," and recently tried to allow students with concealed-carry permits to bring guns into university classrooms. None of these things would be happening if Florida were Democrat run. Now just project that onto a national scale and there's your answer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
and recently tried to allow students with concealed-carry permits to bring guns into university classrooms

That is until too many Black people start legally carrying, then the 2nd Amendment loonies will flip out and start asking for regulation.

Happened in the 60's, happening today.

edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/