Joker Vs Cyclops h2h

Originally posted by Golgo13
Again, he can't kill him. Plus, he's gone on fighting with broken bones before. He has high pain tolerance.

Again, pain tolerance doesn't count for anything when your body can't operate. It could feel like a summer breeze when Scott snaps his arm, but if it's snapped completely he can't use it. Unless his body can ignore physics fully...like a bone not connected to the rest of the bone being able to move.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Again, he can't kill him. Plus, he's gone on fighting with broken bones before. He has high pain tolerance.

Originally posted by KingD19
Again, pain tolerance doesn't count for anything when your body can't operate. It could feel like a summer breeze when Scott snaps his arm, but if it's snapped completely he can't use it. Unless his body can ignore physics fully...like a bone not connected to the rest of the bone being able to move.

Joker can heal. When was the last time Scott did that to a character?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
If the optic blasts weren't turned off would Cyclops still lose?

In killing Joker? If Joker was exposed to the same meteor as Savage and his healing/immortality worked on the same level, he wouldn't die.

Here is a quote about the whole thing. Recent Snyder run

What do Vandal Savage, Ra's Al Ghul and the Joker have in common? A lot more than past_DC Comicshistory would have you believe.__ According to_Batman #38, Vandal Savage acquired his immortality from the radiation of a mysterious meteorite that fell to Earth in the prehistoric era._ Ra's Al Ghul apparently bathes in a "corrupted version" of the chemical/radiation._ And the Joker, as told in Snyder's Batman #38 also encountered the meteorite before Gotham was ever born._ That's right, the Joker is immortal._ It's a clever retcon to explain how the Joker bounces back time after time from all the punishment Batman dishes out. As explained in Batman #38, the chemical only activates in the Joker at moments of extreme physical injury, otherwise the chemical is undetectable.

If Joker has a healing factor and is immortal now, why are we even having this conversation? Also, if he has those things going for him, I better not see Batman beating his ass anytime soon either.

Cyclops is a better fighter H2H then Joker is and I cant believe that is even up for discussion. I don't care about Jokers pain tolerance either. Its hard to laugh off pain when your knocked out.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here is a quote about the whole thing. Recent Snyder run

Lame

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lame

Agreed and totally unneeded.

Just what comics were desperately needing, ANOTHER healing factor.

sleep1

Now that Golgo13 has educated you all, under the conditions present in the OP, can we now all agree that Joker wins?

Or is it beyond you all to admit and accept that fact?

Originally posted by tkitna
If Joker has a healing factor and is immortal now, why are we even having this conversation? Also, if he has those things going for him, I better not see Batman beating his ass anytime soon either.

Cyclops is a better fighter H2H then Joker is and I cant believe that is even up for discussion. I don't care about Jokers pain tolerance either. Its hard to laugh off pain when your knocked out.

Damian Wayne was using a crowbar on joker and it hardly did anything.

So they actually confirmed that retarded Joker meteor thing?

****.

Did he try choking him or snapping his neck?

I was assuming this is no powers, otherwise Scott can keep his Optic blast if Joker's get's his supposed immortality.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Damian Wayne was using a crowbar on joker and it hardly did anything.

Well then I guess the Joker is superhuman now and out of Batmans league.

Just doesn't seem right that the Joker should be a superman villain now.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Now that Golgo13 has educated you all, under the conditions present in the OP, can we now all agree that Joker wins?

Or is it beyond you all to admit and accept that fact?

From what I read the immortality thing is still just a theory. Joker was asked if he's immortal, or just a very sick man and his response was something like "I look at it more as a choose your own adventure rather than a multiple choice." It's still supposed to be a mystery at this point. The direction we seem to be getting steered towards is him being older than Gotham though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here is a quote about the whole thing. Recent Snyder run

Originally posted by riv6672
No optic blasts, no Joker venom, knives, exploding cigars, potato peelers...you get the idea.

Just hand to hand.

These are the conditions presented to us in the OP...

Given what we know of these two characters, how can any rational person utter the words "Scott wins?"

I doubt riv was aware that the Joker has powers now, it's rather clear from the OP that this is intended to be a no weapons/powers fight.