Joker Vs Cyclops h2h

Originally posted by tkitna
If Joker has a healing factor and is immortal now, why are we even having this conversation? Also, if he has those things going for him, I better not see Batman beating his ass anytime soon either.

Cyclops is a better fighter H2H then Joker is and I cant believe that is even up for discussion. I don't care about Jokers pain tolerance either. Its hard to laugh off pain when your knocked out.

So, Joker has powers now?
Way to go DCnu. 🙄 😂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
These are the conditions presented to us in the OP...

Given what we know of these two characters, how can any rational person utter the words "Scott wins?"

Needless Immortality aside, i still gave the win to Joker, personally.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here is a quote about the whole thing. Recent Snyder run

Thats sh1t is retarded. Good job fuqing up the character 👇

No joke. Joker's power is, he's bat shit crazy. Duh.

I thought his power was more like cheating death. It's not so much a healing factor as if he's about to die, he just ends up coming back for some random reason. It shouldn't keep him in a fight if all his bones are broken, which Scott is easily skilled enough to do.

Cyclops yesll/ NOO I can't hitz hm wit muh punchin lazer then gives up.

Nah, all that has been retconned now. It's not 100% that he gets the same type of power as Savage, but there is strong evidence that it points to it.

But it's still speculation at this point until it's revealed on panel right?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nah, all that has been retconned now. It's not 100% that he gets the same type of power as Savage, but there is strong evidence that it points to it.

Cyclops stomps but the whole joker healing factor is making me sick

Originally posted by KingD19
But it's still speculation at this point until it's revealed on panel right?

Joker was shown to be older than Gotham, so it has to be the meteorite source, unless it's shown to be something totally different when the story ends.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Joker was shown to be older than Gotham, so it has to be the meteorite source

shit

Originally posted by Golgo13
Isn't DCNU Joker hard to put down because of his healing and the fact that he might be exposed to the same meteor that powers the likes of Vandal Savage?

If so, that's an interesting take.

Yeah, Snyder's run is pretty damn good right now. Much better than his last Joker story.

IIRC, Joker was actually supposed to die in his first appearance, so end-up as a one-off, but the editor forced the end to change so he did actually survive.

Not that it has anything to do with the topic. Just some stuff people said earlier reminded me of that.

The story is actually pretty good so I'll wait til the end. But I have a feeling all this immortality stuff and old pictures of Joker may just be a huge elaborate plan to phuck with Bruce. Either that or it will be left inconclusive.

Agree with KingD19. How is Joker supposed to fight back at all when Scott - unquestionably a better hand-to-hand fighter - snaps both of his legs? Slither after him? I hate the Joker, it's always annoyed me that his popularity has meant that in fights where he should have easily had his face pushed in he comes away with a cheap win. I kind of wish someone in the DC universe would pick him up by one leg and give him the treatment Hulk gave Loki in the Avengers movie.

the problem is that Jokers fighting skills fluctuates rapidly from story to story; some he's a one punch or even a half smack for Batman, in others he's doing damage to Bats all over the place, it all really comes back to his unpredictability and craziness i suppose, I recall reading somewhere that they explained away his sometimes violent killer sometimes harmless prankster thing by saying he's a different Joker every day or some shit like that