Blue Marvel VERSUS World War Hulk

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yeah I mean I don't think many writers tackled the Agoraphobia completely. It's a hard thing to look at as I would know myself from dealing with it myself every day.

Was there any more about the arc you hated? I mean for me I like the art just because of how Romita was the one to draw Sentry Vol 2.

A million things.

Pak departed from Planet Hulk/Green Scar Hulk, took the warband in a terrible direction, Hulk lost what little moral highground he had to begin with.

But this mainly builds into Pak not being able to sell the Hulk as a credible threat or likable protagonist.

I could go on forever.

Originally posted by Surtur
This is pretty much correct. WWH was full of nonsense. The Sentry showing was laughable considering the things Sentry has done on the high end of things. Not only that, but it involved a bunch of heroes just acting like morons throughout the entire story. The true "war" in the story was a war on common sense.

I agree with this. Let's include this with Hulk as well. Walking through a blast that was ripping reality apart. Punching through something an abstract weapon couldn't dent. Tanking a weapon that could melt adamantium for a prolong amount of time. Punching so hard that he reversed time. It's obvious Sentry fought an extremely weakened Hulk since Hulk has done better before and afterwards. Sentry should not have been able to even pierce him. KMC logic for the win.

So we all agree, WWH was a shit story arc?

As carver points out (and yes, I actually, seriously 100% agree with him) the Hulk can have been shown to be so much more powerful than what he was shown to be. they didn't have to write his opponents down to the level of morons/feebs; Hulk should have been written up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So we all agree, WWH was a shit story arc?

As carver points out (and yes, I actually, seriously 100% agree with him) the Hulk can have been shown to be so much more powerful than what he was shown to be. they didn't have to write his opponents down to the level of morons/feebs; Hulk should have been written up.

I don't think any of them was written to moron levels. To each his own.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think any of them was written to moron levels. To each his own.

Juggernaut. How was he defeated?

I don't think you can argue that sentry was weakened in that comic. That's interjecting your own views in what was a clear cut scene of sentry going all out. Pak isn't subtle enough to do that.

Xavier, Frost, the Cukoos, Siren, and a psychic attack was just not viable against the Hulk lol?

Reed, lets make this flashlight which looks like the sentry. That'll do it. Nevermind dumping him into the negative zone.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Juggernaut. How was he defeated?

Bfred.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Xavier, Frost, the Cukoos, Siren, and a psychic attack was just not viable against the Hulk lol?

Reed, lets make this flashlight which looks like the sentry. That'll do it. Nevermind dumping him into the negative zone.

Xavier tried mind attacking Hulk to the point that it nearly took out all of the team with the backlash. Anything higher than that probably would've killed them. He couldn't even handle the strain of entering Hulk mind.

It was explained why no one attempted bfring the Hulk.

Psychic attacks were useless.

Battle field removal is what got them into trouble in the first place. Hulk would always come back, just angrier and stronger then last time.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Xavier, Frost, the Cukoos, Siren, and a psychic attack was just not viable against the Hulk lol?

Reed, lets make this flashlight which looks like the sentry. That'll do it. Nevermind dumping him into the negative zone.

They tried mind-controlling him, and Xavier tried reading his mind (which exhausted him, but he succeeded).

God forbid they would just try a psy-bolt, which is effective regardless of your telepathic resistance.

Originally posted by carver9
Xavier tried mind attacking Hulk to the point that it nearly took out all of the team with the backlash. Anything higher than that probably would've killed them. He couldn't even handle the strain of entering Hulk mind.

It was explained why no one attempted bfring the Hulk.

Yet a random SHIELD telepath was able to.

Emma Frost and the Cuckoos, separately, were able to hold his power back. Great showing, Charles👆

Not really. Reed just said, no matter where we send him, he will eventually come back.

Eventually.

Reed would rather die, then buy himself more time, it would seem. Not to mention, the Zeno Room would've sorted Hulk right out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you can argue that sentry was weakened in that comic. That's interjecting your own views in what was a clear cut scene of sentry going all out. Pak isn't subtle enough to do that.

Sentry was weakened...by the plot.

Originally posted by carver9
Bfred.

So the Juggernaut is unable to turn around?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Psychic attacks were useless.

Battle field removal is what got them into trouble in the first place. Hulk would always come back, just angrier and stronger then last time.

👆

Originally posted by carver9
👆

Zeno room with a vacuum. Boom. And I'm not even Reed-level in intelligence (or even Johnny, for that matter).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So the Juggernaut is unable to turn around?

The distance he flew, probably not. Then Xavier argued with him anyways, telling him to take the fight elsewhere because they (him/Jugs) were destroying the mansion.

They could of sent the Hulk into a black hole or the core of a star. He wouldn't of been able to come back without outside assistance if they did that.

Or for that matter Reed Richards could of just f*cking cured him by now. Or come up with some type of solution that was better then "put him into space and leave him to chance". That sounds like the plan of a 12 yr. old.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Zeno room with a vacuum. Boom. And I'm not even Reed-level in intelligence (or even Johnny, for that matter).

Do you think that would've stopped Hulk indefinitely? Knowing Hulks history.

Originally posted by carver9
The distance he flew, probably not. Then Xavier argued with him anyways, telling him to take the fight elsewhere because they (him/Jugs) were destroying the mansion.

How far was that?

So what you're saying is, BFR DIDN'T defeat him, if Xavier then told him to stop?