The Herc Scale

Started by carver99 pages

That's an eternal debate, doesn't mean who's the strongest out of the two. Seems like you all are doing a lot of picking and choosing to be honest. One instance during fear itself, Thor tells us he never could beat Hulk, then we have this instance that you all tend to ignore or not accept...

Hulk/Banner tells us the combined might of the Avengers (including Thor), the fantastic four along with more that they can't stop him and wave them off with a stomp.

http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media-full//IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html

Guess what? This was ignored. Then we have Thor admitting he couldn't beat Hulk upfront during fear itself which resulted in him bfring Hulk.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

An eternal debate means exactly what it means, it's something that had been debated over the yrs, kinda like what we are doing...doesn't imply on who's stronger. Everything else points to Hulk being stronger, including statements.

Originally posted by carver9
That's an eternal debate, doesn't mean who's the strongest out of the two. Seems like you all are doing a lot of picking and choosing to be honest. One instance during fear itself, Thor tells us he never could beat Hulk, then we have this instance that you all tend to ignore or not accept...

Hulk/Banner tells us the combined might of the Avengers (including Thor), the fantastic four along with more that they can't stop him and wave them off with a stomp.

http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media-full//IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html

Guess what? This was ignored. Then we have Thor admitting he couldn't beat Hulk upfront during fear itself which resulted in him bfring Hulk.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

An eternal debate means exactly what it means, it's something that had been debated over the yrs, kinda like what we are doing...doesn't imply on who's stronger. Everything else points to Hulk being stronger, including statements.

Even in the scan you included Thor says "Did you now". That shows that he didn't really mean that.

I have seen you use that in debates before but I don't see why when Thor clearly says did you now.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Even in the scan you included Thor says "Did you now". That shows that he didn't really mean that.

I have seen you use that in debates before but I don't see why when Thor clearly says did you now.

Yeah, we did have different opinions on this. My statement seems to be more accurate since in the scans before this, Thor literally tries to kill this version of Hulk ending with Hulk brushing it off and Thor fatiguing himself which again, led to Thor bfring him. Removing Hulk off the battlefield was a smart decision and shows me imo that Thor meant exactly what he said, he couldn't beat this version of Hulk (and per his words, any Hulk) up front. To each his own.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
From Banner's own mouth. This is an example of Marvel putting things out there to muddy the waters. In this case it's a direct comparison.

Oh I know. I was just enjoying my fanboyism. 😄
Oh and i kinda like your list. Comparable to mine actually. wink3

KB u got the next scan

Originally posted by carver9

Guess what? This was ignored. Then we have Thor admitting he couldn't beat Hulk upfront during fear itself which resulted in him bfring Hulk.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

That scan doesn't help your argument, hulk was amped and Thor was weakened.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That scan doesn't help your argument, hulk was amped and Thor was weakened.

To bad he wasn't talking about one Hulk and proof that Thor loss his strength.

Originally posted by carver9
To bad he wasn't talking about one Hulk and proof that Thor loss his strength.

OK come over let me stab you and let's fight to the death IRL, after I kick your ass you'll have your proof.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
OK come over let me stab you and let's fight to the death IRL, after I kick your ass you'll have your proof.

Thor is a god and a freaking High Herald. Superman, Hulk, Surfer, all of these characters have fought with injuries before and still retained their powers. Nothing was hinted at the fact that Thor was weakened. Hurt, yes, weakened, no. This is the same guy that dented Surfer head with a head bunt. Hell, Hulk koed an amped Strange after getting holes punched into him. Thor fought and defeated a powerful opponent after getting his liver turned to glass. Fought Gorr to a standstill while getting his insides chewed up by the blade. On and on and on. That's why Thor is in the upper tier. He keeps on coming at you no matter the cost.

Thor insides get eating out (no homo) by the blades and he is still fighting Gor at peak condition. Hell, this is one of his best showings. He IGNORES THE pain and press through.

Thor liver is turned to Glass. The guy spits pieces of his glass liver out and tap that a**.

Thor is the embodiment of damage soak. He has shown he can take anything and keep pressing.

I'm aware of his damage soak, what u fail to grasp is that he was injured. When you're injured and u go into a fight you are not 100% across the board. You're WEAKENED. You can take the best boxer in the world. Stab him, cover his wound and he'd get his ass handed to him because he's simply not at his best. Hulk is irrelevant, he has a HF which negates your argument. Thor does not. The feats you tout are a testament to durability and will

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I'm aware of his damage soak, what u fail to grasp is that he was injured. When you're injured and u go into a fight you are not 100% across the board. You're WEAKENED. You can take the best boxer in the world. Stab him, cover his wound and he'd get his ass handed to him because he's simply not at his best. Hulk is irrelevant, he has a HF which negates your argument. Thor does not. The feats you tout are a testament to durability and will

Lol...stop comparing Thor to a human. A human can't get his liver turned to glass and continue to fight on like nothing happened. Thor still retain his strength, durability and speed. During one of those showings, with the blade chewing his guts out, he was still breaking Worlds with his swing and iirc, he traveled FTL right after that. Like I've said, nothing was shown of him being weakened. Hurt, yes. I can be in pain and still retain my full strength. Thor was in pain with the wound and like he's always done, he ignored it. Sin, you have nothing and that still doesn't take away from the fact that he said he never could beat the Hulk which is past tense.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
OK come over let me stab you and let's fight to the death IRL, after I kick your ass you'll have your proof.

I have odds on Carver by KO!

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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I have odds on Carver by KO!

Lol...koed? I would probably die within moments depending on the stab.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...koed? I would probably die within moments depending on the stab.

I BELIEVE in you, Carver!

You can do it!

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...stop comparing Thor to a human. A human can't get his liver turned to glass and continue to fight on like nothing happened. Thor still retain his strength, durability and speed. During one of those showings, with the blade chewing his guts out, he was still breaking Worlds with his swing and iirc, he traveled FTL right after that. Like I've said, nothing was shown of him being weakened. Hurt, yes. I can be in pain and still retain my full strength. Thor was in pain with the wound and like he's always done, he ignored it. Sin, you have nothing and that still doesn't take away from the fact that he said he never could beat the Hulk which is past tense.

No boo u just lack basic comprehensive ability. You're a scan whore who can't digest anything beyond the pretty pictures. It's a senseless argument because you won't embrace the fact that Thor was injured and still owning amped thing and hulk. Unless you can prove he was one hundred percent I accept your concession

Originally posted by Sin I AM
No boo u just lack basic comprehensive ability. You're a scan whore who can't digest anything beyond the pretty pictures. It's a senseless argument because you won't embrace the fact that Thor was injured and still owning amped thing and hulk. Unless you can prove he was one hundred percent I accept your concession

Damage soak boo. Damage soak. Concession accepted. Now let's move on pass this because Hulk isn't in this thread.

Originally posted by LGU
Banner isn't actually offering an opinion one way or another there - he's just acknowledging the debate surrounding the question, before pointing out that the answer is irrelevant to the topic being discussed (worthiness).

Banner has explicitly stated that Hulk is stronger than Hercules, so we know which side of the debate he is on when it comes down to it.

Cheers.


Not sure why you're explaining the scan to me. The bottom line is Banner stopped the shield agent on her tracks on the notion that Hulk is without a doubt stronger than Thor.

I'm merely pointing out that scans like these and incredible feats of strength other than Hulk are regularly displayed by others that kinda muddy the waters.

Originally posted by carver9
That's an eternal debate, doesn't mean who's the strongest out of the two. Seems like you all are doing a lot of picking and choosing to be honest. One instance during fear itself, Thor tells us he never could beat Hulk, then we have this instance that you all tend to ignore or not accept...

Hulk/Banner tells us the combined might of the Avengers (including Thor), the fantastic four along with more that they can't stop him and wave them off with a stomp.

http://s980.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media-full//IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html

Guess what? This was ignored. Then we have Thor admitting he couldn't beat Hulk upfront during fear itself which resulted in him bfring Hulk.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

An eternal debate means exactly what it means, it's something that had been debated over the yrs, kinda like what we are doing...doesn't imply on who's stronger. Everything else points to Hulk being stronger, including statements.


Picking and choosing? Are you sure you understand what that means?

And read above where I am in regards to "eternal debate".

And you're still not getting the point of why I brought up the scan. I'm not saying Hulk is the strongest, that's kinda his thing. I'm merely pointing out the fact that Marvel makes you think twice every so often. I mean look at my list in the first place. Smh..

And I'm pretty sure your scan is describing WWH arc. Not sure why you felt the need to include Thor.

And OneAngry hit it on the nail in regards to your fear itself scan. Thor was being somewhat facetious or else he would have not ended his statement with "did you now?"

Originally posted by carver9
Damage soak boo. Damage soak. Concession accepted. Now let's move on pass this because Hulk isn't in this thread.

You're an idiot

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're an idiot

respect

And yes, Thor was not at 100% due to his injury and still beat an amped Hulk who was above the Hulk we know.