Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Right so who cares if Jango got Curb'd by Mace... Mace would also curb'd Cap as well. So that's a moot point. Jango doing pretty well against Kenobi makes it crystal clear he'd do well against CA who bring far less to the table than a Jedi
Not as curbed. eg if Jango got curbed 10, Cap would get curbed 7
edit: three less curbs is what I am saying
Nobody is saying that he'd never attack from range, we were disputing the notion that Jango wouldn't fight to win, he'd just keep running away and laying down suppressive fire to keep Cap from closing the distance and force a stalemate.
KuRuPT Thanosi is basically arguing that Jango is a massive coward and thus would spend the entire fight running away.
I vaguely recall a comment from someone {perhaps you?} to the effect of "prove Jango can fight at long range" or something.
Arguing what a character is capable of is {i.e. what's on paper} is more effective than arguing what they will do based on scripted events. Jango's got a jetpack and he's proven more than willing to fight dirty. Hell, in his fight with Obi-Wan he utilizes all assortments of gadgets and doesn't cry foul when his son opens fire on the Jedi in a friggin' starship. Force adepts pretty much always have the advantage in combat anyways and Jango didn't get where he was by fighting on an even playing field.
Even with Coleman Trebor, Jango just opens fire on him when Trebor's attention is solely on Dooku.
He clearly doesn't give a shit. He fights to win.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Nobody is saying that he'd never attack from range, we were disputing the notion that Jango wouldn't fight to win, he'd just keep running away and laying down suppressive fire to keep Cap from closing the distance and force a stalemate.KuRuPT Thanosi is basically arguing that Jango is a massive coward and thus would spend the entire fight running away.
You're a total and complete moron. Quote me saying any such thing or this will be another time you're a liar. What I was saying was that Cap can really only hope to stalemate Jango not the other way around. But a moron like yourself would get the two confused. Jango's only hope isn't a stalemate, he has far more options than Cap if he fights smart like he typically does. Cap on the other hand best hope is a stalemate since we know Jango will likely fight at range and Cap can do virtually nothing about it. BTW Tempest don't mind Silent.. His Star Wars knowledge is comparable to Quan's i.e. very little if any.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I vaguely recall a comment from someone {perhaps you?} to the effect of "prove Jango can fight at long range" or something.Arguing what a character is capable of is {i.e. what's on paper} is more effective than arguing what they will do based on scripted events. Jango's got a jetpack and he's proven more than willing to fight dirty. Hell, in his fight with Obi-Wan he utilizes all assortments of gadgets and doesn't cry foul when his son opens fire on the Jedi in a friggin' starship. Force adepts pretty much always have the advantage in combat anyways and Jango didn't get where he was by fighting on an even playing field.
Even with Coleman Trebor, Jango just opens fire on him when Trebor's attention is solely on Dooku.
He clearly doesn't give a shit. He fights to win.
Yes that was Silent demanding proof that Jango will fight at range for the entire fight... Then again are we surprised by Silent saying this? He's the laughing stock of multiple forums
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I vaguely recall a comment from someone {perhaps you?} to the effect of "prove Jango can fight at long range" or something.Arguing what a character is capable of is {i.e. what's on paper} is more effective than arguing what they will do based on scripted events. Jango's got a jetpack and he's proven more than willing to fight dirty. Hell, in his fight with Obi-Wan he utilizes all assortments of gadgets and doesn't cry foul when his son opens fire on the Jedi in a friggin' starship. Force adepts pretty much always have the advantage in combat anyways and Jango didn't get where he was by fighting on an even playing field.
Even with Coleman Trebor, Jango just opens fire on him when Trebor's attention is solely on Dooku.
He clearly doesn't give a shit. He fights to win.
You might want to tell that to KT, seeing as his argument was basically that Jango wouldn't fight to win, that Jango would in fact stay at range and force a stalemate, that is when I asked for where he(Jango) ever acted like that for an entire fight.
Jango's only ever tried to fight at distances when facing Jedi, since he's aware that Jedi are effectively the Apex Predators in their universe.
Though with Coleman Trebor, he had no fear shooting from a distance of 20ish feet, but that could have been because big daddy Doku was there and he felt safe.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You might want to tell that to KT, seeing as his argument was basically that Jango wouldn't fight to win, that Jango would in fact stay at range and force a stalemate, that is when I asked for where he(Jango) ever acted like that for an entire fight.
Show me any place I said that clownshoes... I said he'd fight at range and then CAP's BEST SHOT IS FOR A STALEMATE. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it. At range Jango can beat cap with all his weapons... That is no issue for him. Eventually he'll tag Cap... Cap on the other hand has so limited options if Jango stays at range that HIS only shot in a stalemate. Let's see moron mess it up again.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The only time you've said that Cap's best shot is for a stalemate was earlier on this page, stop trying to pretend that it was your stance the entire time. you're not fooling anyone.
Perfect, then quote where I said Jango's only chance and hope is for a stalemate like you're claiming I said. Or shall we add this to a laundry list of times that you've lied?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're acting like it's a given he'll even throw it. You're basically saying Cap would take that tactical risk... and I don't think he's likely to do so. Yet, this is his only chance if Jango stays at range. So really, you're hoping for a lot of things in order for Cap to win.
Here on Page three.. I say Cap's only chance is to throw the shield if Jango stays at range. When we know Jango has multiple options at range from his Kenobi fight. i.e. Cap's only chance then is a stalemate or he losses. It's really that simple. Jango will fight at range and eventually hit and kill/ko Cap or cap will just hide behind his shield like a coward hoping for a stalemate.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You might want to tell that to KT, seeing as his argument was basically that Jango wouldn't fight to win, that Jango would in fact stay at range and force a stalemate, that is when I asked for where he(Jango) ever acted like that for an entire fight.
No you said ^^^^ ... At NO point did I call Jango a pussy or he'll only try for a stalemate. I made it clear with the quote above Cap's ONLY shot is a stalemate if Jango fights at range. At no point did I say Jango would stay at range to force a stalemate.... QUOTE ME WHERE I SAID WHAT YOU'RE CLAIMING I SAID. It's that simple or another silent lie
Originally posted by Silent Master
You might want to tell that to KT, seeing as his argument was basically that Jango wouldn't fight to win, that Jango would in fact stay at range and force a stalemate, that is when I asked for where he(Jango) ever acted like that for an entire fight.
he's your quote right here.. NOW... Quote where I said:
1. Jango wouldn't fight to win
2. and that he would stay at range to force a stalemate
Quote where I said Jango wouldn't fight to win and would stay at range to force a stalemate. that's what you claimed I said... NOW QUOTE WHERE I MADE THOSE CLAIMS. Let me see you run again from the question as I love seeing you squirm lol. Does it bother you, and I'm being honest here, that everybody laughs at you?