The Human Torch Nova Blasts the JLA

No they arent but, he's not Superman level invulnerable. He does get bloodied by bullets, slashed by blades.
When i (personally) say the NB kills him its not because of hydration.
I say it'll kill Cyborg;ash the human, slag the tech. Same with Hal if no shirlds, Flash if no reflexes.
A million degree spike is no joke.

Wasn't he swimming in lava when he was fighting the Dead King?

Yeah, all depends on the Nova blast and it's power. A throwaway statement from a childish Johnny isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

Originally posted by riv6672
No they arent but, he's not Superman level invulnerable. He does get bloodied by bullets, slashed by blades.
When i (personally) say the NB kills him its not because of hydration.
I say it'll kill Cyborg;ash the human, slag the tech. Same with Hal if no shirlds, Flash if no reflexes.
A million degree spike is no joke.

I'm not saying a million degrees won't kill him.

I just think that people see blood from bullets and assume that he's somehow weak. The bullets still bounce off him. People were emptying AK's at him and all it did was piss him off.

Sure, he still has that "strong against blunt, not so strong against pointy" thing going on, but we saw him get debris right through his leg, yank it out, and walk it off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wasn't he swimming in lava when he was fighting the Dead King?

Yeah, all depends on the Nova blast and it's power. A throwaway statement from a childish Johnny isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

he's been fine in lava for the most part yeah. a little singed, but not really in any danger.

Originally posted by riv6672
No they arent but, he's not Superman level invulnerable. He does get bloodied by bullets, slashed by blades.
When i (personally) say the NB kills him its not because of hydration.
I say it'll kill Cyborg;ash the human, slag the tech. Same with Hal if no shirlds, Flash if no reflexes.
A million degree spike is no joke.

Have you got evidence of the million degrees? Tbh I've never seen him go full nova and it be at that temp - they HAVE been a round for awhile, though so I could miss something.

Not arguing that.
Arguing people lumping all herald levelers into one class, and judging them by Superman.

When convenient.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not saying a million degrees won't kill him.

I just think that people see blood from bullets and assume that he's somehow weak. The bullets still bounce off him. People were emptying AK's at him and all it did was piss him off.

Sure, he still has that "strong against blunt, not so strong against pointy" thing going on, but we saw him get debris right through his leg, yank it out, and walk it off.

he's been fine in lava for the most part yeah. a little singed, but not really in any danger.

He healed from a trident stab in the chest (though maybe it was artist error).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you got evidence of the million degrees? Tbh I've never seen him go full nova and it be at that temp - they HAVE been a round for awhile, though so I could miss something.

Every single instance of him going nova is hyperbole. EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE

Thats why you need to check stats sheets, too.
Stat sheets said 1 million degrees. All caps, 1 million degrees.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Every single instance of him going nova is hyperbole. EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE

Yeah. The best I could find was on the previous page - where it is likened to a nuke.

Still powerful, but not a million degrees. And certainly not 'supernova' or even 'nova' level.

Day what you will, its listed as a million degrees.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats why you need to check stats sheets, too.
Stat sheets said 1 million degrees. All caps, 1 million degrees.

But without showings to back it up, I might as well say that Aquaman, who has swum in lava, tanks a nova blast. Even though he hasn't been shown to do so.

Or Cyborg, with his promethium self-healing nanites and Apokoliptian tech, tanks it.

Or that as it generates the same heat and intensity as as a star, it actually AMPS Superman.

Or as GL rings are limited only by their wearer's imagination and willpower, and Hal has shown insane amounts of willpower, that he can tank it.

Etc etc. Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns, Daredevil is the man without fear etc.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats why you need to check stats sheets, too.
Stat sheets said 1 million degrees. All caps, 1 million degrees.

No true avid comic reader goes off of stat sheets. They are grossly inconsistent. You have to base it off of ACTUAL ON PANEL EVENTS. I can't see how some posters feel Diana cant or Authur or Vic cant tank it when Sue has nearly every single time he's used it. Plus IMMEDIATELY afterwards he's out of the match. It's weaksauce.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. The best I could find was on the previous page - where it is likened to a nuke.

Still powerful, but not a million degrees. And certainly not 'supernova' or even 'nova' level.

That's the best you'll find unless u count the plank heat but that has context. There's also the combination of him and storm frying hulk but that was shared and accomplished nothing. He did nothing to cosmic doom. And when he tried it on tony got owned

@DarkSaint85
Not going to argue with your perfectly valid points.
I will say one, agree to disagree, and two, the fact that we're 4 pages in and are NOW starting to get people down playing HTs attack, just tells me they ran out of ways to justify certain characters' invulnerability.

Originally posted by riv6672
Day what you will, its listed as a million degrees.

Fair enough.

I shall read the question as, who can tank a blast that measures a million degrees (Farenheit?) That will avoid all doubt.

I stand by my earlier assessment.

No true avid comic reader goes off of stat sheets. They are grossly inconsistent.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough.

I shall read the question as, who can tank a blast that measures a million degrees (Farenheit?) That will avoid all doubt.

I stand by my earlier assessment.

I find it odd that in the absence of evidence to support a stance people will still choose.to back said chatacter without a base. Anywho

http://s228.photobucket.com/user/aeverett55/media-full//NOVA.jpg.html

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/36037/746281-absorptionnovablastks3.jpg
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/36037/746282-897621-ht1.jpg

Since we are basing things off pure hyperbole heres some unquantifiable scans to choose from

Yeah. The Planck showing was when he had every Johnny of the Multiverse in him, right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. The Planck showing was when he had every Johnny of the Multiverse in him, right?

Yup

The annihilus one looks the best imo because until the ccr came into play it appeared he would destroy the whole wave

@Sin,

Why is it Hyperbole about Johnny heat?