The Human Torch Nova Blasts the JLA

Originally posted by Digi
Pretty much on point. I get that it's a weakness for Arthur, but Cyborg isn't really leagues beyond him, so he'd at least be roughed up to all hell. With those two, I could see a case made for death if it's point blank with no shields or anything, but in a comic they'd survive it.

WW would be singed but ultimately survive. GL would be taxed with his shields but would get through it unharmed.

WW did survive a bloodlusted Supermans hv with taking visable damage. Hell, her titties smothered a warp core explosion, and looked just fine. 🙂

Flash could just vibrate through it, like Wally did through Anti Monitors anti matter.

Wonder if Superman would get an amp.

Originally posted by carver9
@Sin,

Why is it Hyperbole about Johnny heat?

Johnny's words are exactly like a teenager's - well, I see your million and raise you 2 million!

Then, he never actually did it. Empty boasts.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Johnny's words are exactly like a teenager's - well, I see your million and raise you 2 million!

Then, he never actually did it. Empty boasts.

What does that have to do with my question though about his height in power when it comes to his heat?

Batman batkicks the Nova blast back at human torch

Originally posted by carver9
@Sin,

Why is it Hyperbole about Johnny heat?

Because every instance of him going nova he was bragging. Take him and doom for example. Doom says he can survive a million degree heat Johnny says well i can just go two million. Neither of which is ever shown. Plus we all know that going nova for storm is basically suicide because if he doesn't drop his opponent (which he never has) he's out of the fight from exhaustion. So it's a safe assumption that he didnt reach anywhere near those temps in his "fight" with doom because he would have fell to the earth.

Imo his greatest feat is fighting the wave. Because it seemed as if he was wiping out the entire wave until he got stopped. But there's never any mention of the level of heat expended. Id say the scan ds posted is the best example of his max output. A small nuke blast. Unless u can find another example

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because every instance of him going nova he was bragging. Take him and doom for example. Doom says he can survive a million degree heat Johnny says well i can just go two million. Neither of which is ever shown. Plus we all know that going nova for storm is basically suicide because if he doesn't drop his opponent (which he never has) he's out of the fight from exhaustion. So it's a safe assumption that he didnt reach anywhere near those temps in his "fight" with doom because he would have fell to the earth.

Imo his greatest feat is fighting the wave. Because it seemed as if he was wiping out the entire wave until he got stopped. But there's never any mention of the level of heat expended. Id say the scan ds posted is the best example of his max output. A small nuke blast. Unless u can find another example

So this is him bragging?

Originally posted by carver9
What does that have to do with my question though about his height in power when it comes to his heat?

Hyperbole = exaggerated statement.

Johnny was exaggerating.

Just like every other person in comics that I have seen, so far, that talks about the Human Torch and him going nova.

Everyone talks about how powerful it is. But we have never seen any actual proof of it. So until then, the power is exaggerated. His 'most powerful shot' was absorbed by Iron Man, easily, and was likened to a starship. His nova was 'akin to a nuclear blast'. All powerful statements, sure, but nowhere near his bio and stats card. And certainly nowhere near his boast to Cosmic Doom.

Hence, hyperbole.

Originally posted by carver9
So this is him bragging?

👆 much better. That was what I was asking for.

Originally posted by carver9
So this is him bragging?

It's not bragging. But its still hyperbole. Or rather unquantifiable. And that's his energy output not his heat index. But it's as close as ull get unless someone has scans of him being measured by reed

Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's not bragging. But its still hyperbole. Or rather unquantifiable. And that's his energy output not his heat index. But it's as close as ull get unless someone has scans of him being measured by reed

😐

How is that hyperbole? What are you looking for for it NOT to be hyperbole? The narration is telling us the heat temperature. It's not Johnny himself telling us. What is it you are looking for?

Originally posted by carver9
😐

How is that hyperbole? What are you looking for for it NOT to be hyperbole? The narration is telling us the heat temperature. It's not Johnny himself telling us. What is it you are looking for?

Tell me what temperature is the narrative telling

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Tell me what temperature is the narrative telling

It told you what his heat wave was comparable too. Again, what are you looking for? I'm asking this before I destroy your argument.

Not an argument, just asking how hot is a nova blast, before we can begin to see which one of the DCnU JLA will survive.

Simple, no?

Energies that Rivals an exploding Star. Hhhhmmm

Originally posted by carver9
Energies that Rivals an exploding Star. Hhhhmmm

And I have one that says it is akin to a nuke. Not to mention, mine is much more recent. Aren't you the one who always asks for recent scans?

So either your star is small, and the size of a small nuke, or my nuke is large, the size of an exploding star.

Add to that, IM easily absorbed another nova (his 'best' shot, no less), AND collateral damage (not 100% the best piece of evidence, but it adds to the picture), and you can see why Sin and I are skeptical.

Hhhhhmmm indeed.

Originally posted by carver9
It told you what his heat wave was comparable too. Again, what are you looking for? I'm asking this before I destroy your argument.

Yes it said it "rivaled". So yea im not convinced. Thing sometimes rivals Hulk in strength but we know that's not always the case. The wording is misleading but go ahead, destroy.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not an argument, just asking how hot is a nova blast, before we can begin to see which one of the DCnU JLA will survive.

Simple, no?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Ccr bran

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes it said it "rivaled". So yea im not convinced. Thing sometimes rivals Hulk in strength but we know that's not always the case. The wording is misleading but go ahead, destroy.

When has it said Thing rivaled Hulk in strength? You're not convinced on what? Again, what are you looking for?

Tangibility