The Human Torch Nova Blasts the JLA

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strange, it shows up for me?

But yeah, it shows Johnny blasting Gladiator with his full nova blast - and Glads just laughing it off.

A million degrees *should* damage way more than just a city block - based on the scans seen so far of the nova blast actually being used, with some comments:

[b]For - Human Torch would obliterate all these guys:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3853/1334956-torch2.jpg (boasting by Johnny)
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/36037/746282-897621-ht1.jpg (this was a Johnny who was powered by EVERY OTHER Johnny in the mulitverse)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40000/1069839-untitled_7.png
(good one. rivals a star. Hyperbole?)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/121521/2880116-2343963_1_super.jpg
(burn LIKE the sun? Hyperbole.)

Against - Everyone tanks it, except Batman, who kicks the flame back at his face:
http://s21.postimg.org/ur1pd4l9v/Terrax_Bio_8.jpg
(It's Terrax, though...hardly the weakest of characters)
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/36037/746281-absorptionnovablastks3.jpg
(such power....rivals that of a starship. Tony shit talking?)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3853/1334972-torch3.jpg
(nuke blast - small potatoes when we're talking about these guys)
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans10/FF249_vsGladiator6.jpg
(city block razing - so backs the nuke size and starship size up). [/B]

Wouldn't call any of those scans Hyperbole. Especially if we look at the source.

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't call any of those scans Hyperbole. Especially if we look at the source.

Source?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Source?

Narrator.

Originally posted by carver9
Narrator.

I dont think u know what hyperbole means

Yo.

Originally posted by riv6672
Human torch goes nova while surrounded by the DCnu JLA

Superman
Wonder Woman
Batman
GL Hal
Flash Barry
Aquaman
Cyborg

They're all roughly 3 feet away from him, unprepared, not in defense mode. No one character can help any other. Who lives/dies/tanks the nova blast?

Myself:
Pretty sure Superman tanks it, Flash's reflexes can get him to a safe distance, and Batman and Aquaman die.
Unsure on GL, Cyborg and WW.

Cy: in the past, he'd generally suffer massive systems failure that COULD perm him, but if he still had that Omegadrome -tech I think he'd still survive it.

GL: I dont believe they have autoshields anymore, but better than even money says Hal gets his up to save his life (while maybe suffering a burn or 2)

WW: like Flash, she could move out of the way b4 it affects her (if she still has the birth blessings of Hermes' speed)

Aquaman: possible chance he might survive, but he's likely suffer 2nd & 3rd degree burn trauma

Tazer

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dont think u know what hyperbole means

If you can't accept words from a narrator then you have a lot of exempting to do starting with how hot Gladiator, Superman, and Hyperion heat vision is. I don't know what you are expecting to happen for us to know how hot Human Torch heat is.

I remember him going nova with the cosmic control rod amping him up,against the mad Celestials.He ripped through a Celestial`s shoulder pretty good.But did not kill him(still an impressive feat)under the same circumstances everyone dies but Supes,and possibly the Flash.

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't call any of those scans Hyperbole. Especially if we look at the source.

Lol, that leaves only one scan, which says it rivals a star.

Stacked against it, all the other scans which say it isn't all that.

Hyperbole for me also extends to narration. Flowery writing and all that. Thor comics are bad for it, being all mystical and all, but generally comics from that era just ran with it for fun. None of this earnest seriousness - hence Sentry, who's retconned to be from that era, with the million exploding suns etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, that leaves only one scan, which says it rivals a star.

Stacked against it, all the other scans which say it isn't all that.

Hyperbole for me also extends to narration. Flowery writing and all that. Thor comics are bad for it, being all mystical and all, but generally comics from that era just ran with it for fun. None of this earnest seriousness - hence Sentry, who's retconned to be from that era, with the million exploding suns etc.

Originally posted by Mindset
Shut up, you nerd. 😬

Don't provoke me, or my rage will burn like a billion supernovas, and my fists will fall with the force of the same.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, that leaves only one scan, which says it rivals a star.

Stacked against it, all the other scans which say it isn't all that.

Hyperbole for me also extends to narration. Flowery writing and all that. Thor comics are bad for it, being all mystical and all, but generally comics from that era just ran with it for fun. None of this earnest seriousness - hence Sentry, who's retconned to be from that era, with the million exploding suns etc.

Since we are not accepting words for power output, how would we ever find out how hot Superman or Gladiator heat vision is? Word of mouth or the narrator doesn't mean much so everything that has been 'said' should be ditched if it concerns someone's potential? Or does this just apply to Torch?

Is this hyperbole?

Or this...

I can go all day with this. Statements, when do we believe any of them?

When they actually outweigh statements proving the reverse.

So if you produce a scan of Superman lifting infinity, and I produce four scans of him struggling with less than infinity.....guess what, even abhi wouldn't claim he has infinite strength.

Put it this way. If I'm told that i can run fast, like the wind, shall I pull up windspeed charts and say, yes, DS, your top speed is obv equal to a category 8 hurricane?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When they actually outweigh statements proving the reverse.

So if you produce a scan of Superman lifting infinity, and I produce four scans of him struggling with less than infinity.....guess what, even abhi wouldn't claim he has infinite strength.

This doesn't have a thing to do with hyperbole. No one is saying Superman lifting infinite is his strength or not, what we are discussing here is, the statement that is being said about the book is true. The statement that is being said about what Hulk is engulfed in is true. I'm not asking you about consistency here, what I am saying is, do you or do you not accept the statements in the scans I post and why? You are the one that is claiming statements as being hyperbole, lol, even statements from the narrator.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Put it this way. If I'm told that i can run fast, like the wind, shall I pull up windspeed charts and say, yes, DS, your top speed is obv equal to a category 8 hurricane?

Doesn't make one bit of sense. Now if you was on fire and a narration spoke and said, "your flames are burning hotter than the sun". Why would I deny that? It's the freaking narrator telling us how hot you are burning.

How many of the scans say that hes burning hotter than the sun? Simple question.

Next, how many have him burning at less than that?

So I can run as fast as Hurricane Katrina?

Billy Batson, the World's Mightiest Mortal, is the mightiest on DC Earth?

Galactus punched Old King Thor with the force of a billion supernovas?

Originally posted by carver9
If you can't accept words from a narrator then you have a lot of exempting to do starting with how hot Gladiator, Superman, and Hyperion heat vision is. I don't know what you are expecting to happen for us to know how hot Human Torch heat is.

I can't explain it in words that u can fathom. Alot of things in comics are hyperbole. If hulk was truly the strongest one there is he would have zero losses. If sentry had the power of a million exploding suns his slightest touch would incinerate his opponents. If juggernaut was unstoppable, if Logan was the best there is, if Cyclops could punch a whole thru the moon, if Xavier was the most powerful tp, Hercules is supposedly a god of strength, if batman was the world's greatest detective, if if if... there are too many examples. It's flowery prose that's often used in writing. You have to learn the difference between tangible evidence and exaggerated comments.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How many of the scans say that hes burning hotter than the sun? Simple question.

Next, how many have him burning at less than that?

Why would he need to burn that hot consistently? Doesn't make sense. The guy isn't a killer so there's no need to pour everything in one attack. That's like me asking if Wonder Woman is truly a class 100 because she can punch people like Deathstroke and not kill them. WTF man.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I can't explain it in words that u can fathom. Alot of things in comics are hyperbole. If hulk was truly the strongest one there is he would have zero losses. If sentry had the power of a million exploding suns his slightest touch would incinerate his opponents. If juggernaut was unstoppable, if Logan was the best there is, if Cyclops could punch a whole thru the moon, if Xavier was the most powerful tp, Hercules is supposedly a god of strength, if batman was the world's greatest detective, if if if... there are too many examples. It's flowery prose that's often used in writing. You have to learn the difference between tangible evidence and exaggerated comments.

😐

What...does...this...have...to...do...with...if...something...is...hyperbole...or...not?

OMG. How about I make this simple for you. Is Thor traveling FTL here? This is a yes or no question.