The Human Torch Nova Blasts the JLA

Started by Branlor Swift9 pages

Wait Johnny can't burn at sun temps then? Because Carver said he could or because random scans had varying temperatures?

Because two of his latest Novas specifically had him burning at the sun's temperature and causing serious damage to Baby Annihilus and a huge supply of troops. And he burns hotter since his death.

Superman solar-flares it back at Johnny and Batman would laugh it off.

Idk about the others but who cares? 👆

Originally posted by carver9
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What...does...this...have...to...do...with...if...something...is...hyperbole...or...not?

OMG. How about I make this simple for you. Is Thor traveling FTL here? This is a yes or no question.

Yes because he's shown ftl travel via mjolnir before and after.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes because he's shown ftl travel via mjolnir before and after.

Why are you accepting the narration there as legit?

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you accepting the narration there as legit?

Because it's backed up. Whereas ht is not

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because it's backed up. Whereas ht is not

What is it backed up by? A statement or do you have some other type of evidence?

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you accepting the narration there as legit?

Why wouldn't they? You do it all the time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why wouldn't they? You do it all the time.

I know I do it along with almost everyone here. I'm asking her that because she isn't accepting narration for Human Torch.

Originally posted by carver9
I know I do it along with almost everyone here. I'm asking her that because she isn't accepting narration for Human Torch.

Because the narrative is not backed by on panel EVENTS. Johnny has not dropped ANYONE by going nova. Prove me wrong and i concede otherwise stfu and stick to hulk threads

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because the narrative is not backed by on panel EVENTS. Johnny has not dropped ANYONE by going nova. Prove me wrong and i concede otherwise stfu and stick to hulk threads

What type of on panel events are you talking about and who has he went Nova against?

Originally posted by carver9
What type of on panel events are you talking about and who has he went Nova against?

Im done your giving me a headache. Ive already posted scans. Whenever he goes nova he passes out, proves ineffective or both. If he can't drop Tony or Sue he aint dropping the jla

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because the narrative is not backed by on panel EVENTS. Johnny has not dropped ANYONE by going nova. Prove me wrong and i concede otherwise stfu and stick to hulk threads

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Damn i didnt think this thread could get funnier...

Originally posted by carver9
Why would he need to burn that hot consistently? Doesn't make sense. The guy isn't a killer so there's no need to pour everything in one attack. That's like me asking if Wonder Woman is truly a class 100 because she can punch people like Deathstroke and not kill them. WTF man.

Against Iron Man, it was his best shot. No holding back. Did nothing, and worse, was dismissed as starship level.

Against Glads, he was very specifically NOT holding back. Was his full blast. And it would've razed a whole city block.

A city block running North to south, or East to West? There IS a difference. 😉

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Against Iron Man, it was his best shot. No holding back. Did nothing, and worse, was dismissed as starship level.

Against Glads, he was very specifically NOT holding back. Was his full blast. And it would've razed a whole city block.

Never said he was going all out and you forgot to add that Ironman was absorbing his attack. Of course he can withstand it.

Lol...Gladiator swim in stars and before hand, the guy withstood a blast capable of shedding a solar system. Did you honestly think the temperature of a star would stop him? Lol, please tell me you are not basing this off of collateral damage? You're better than this Dark.

Aegis took Galactus out with a blast that didn't even raise the dirt under their ft.

Surfer hits Ravenous with an attack that levels a planet.

Which attack is more powerful?

Circular arguments ftw

Naah, you all have to do better. You used characters boasting about themselves as an example of hyperbole. Obviously two different scenarios.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, you all have to do better. You used characters boasting about themselves as an example of hyperbole. Obviously two different scenarios.

Lol. Please re-read:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/36037/746281-absorptionnovablastks3.jpg

'That was my BEST shot' - Human Torch. If not going all out - what is his 'best'???

Then, re-read:
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/fantastic_four_249-250.shtml

'He took it! My FULL Nova Blast! Enough to raze the whole city block if I'd let it loose.

I would say you have no idea about the comic I am talking about, but even when the comic is in front of you, it seems that you have no idea. I am NOT talking about collateral damage. I am talking about the characters themselves, a notable braggart, Johnny Storm, who boasts and is a kid prone to exaggeration - in his own words, saying that if he let it loose, it would have razed a whole city block. Which is small fry, and not that impressive compared to the JLA.

Then, I showed the well known hotheaded Johnny, who, don't forget, in character, boasts - I show him with his 'best shot', being absorbed and one-upped by Iron Man. Does this mean Iron Man can absorb a star's worth of energy, and increase it? OK.

I THEN had a narration, on panel, which says his energy output of the Nova Blast is like a nuke. Woop de do. So that's THREE scans, from different time periods, all showing that when he actually uses it, it's not all that.

I can see you trying to scan dump and drown the thread, though, with characters not in this thread - trying to muddle the issue. Stick to Human Torch showings.

If anything, Johnny is known to overhype his Nova blast:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/78977/3756550-cap+blocks+nova+blast.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/78977/3756551-cap+blocks+nova+blast2.jpg

Spoiler alert: Johnny was wrong, Cap wasn't too close, and he didn't die. You can interpret it as Cap's plot armour, but it shows, once again (and this isn't isolated) that what Johnny claims and what actually happens isn't always the same thing.

Bear in mind: I am NOT claiming that Cap has no plot armour, nor am I using collateral damage as a guide. I am claiming that Johnny, when going all out, has a very high opinion of what he can or cannot do. He knows the amount of effort he can utilise, but he makes very bold claims as to the effects, which are unproven. Hence, hyperbole.