Captain America vs Viktor (underworld)

Viktor was clearly caught-off guard/surprised by Michael's speed. It was the first time he had ever fought anyone that fast. But, it was crystal clear to me that Viktor adapted and started to use the same level of speed Michael was using.

Also, don't know why people think that Viktor blitzing that peasant in RotL does not count as super speed when he literally moved so fast that no one could see him moving. He was moving his whole body too not just his arms and it's not like the distance was only a few feet. It was much longer distance than that.

No, what the movie showed was that Michael stopped using his speed.

Sorry, that's not what I got from the movie. Viktor adapted. Guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Star428
Sorry, that's not what I got from the movie. Viktor adapted. Guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

Viktor nailed Micheal 3 times (outside combos where Micheal was dazed):

-when Micheal chose to grapple and sneer at Viktor face-to-face. Allowing Viktor to counterattack by grabbing his face, pushing him down and grabbing his arm to toss against a column.
-when Micheal stopped attacking and stand in front of a kneeling, vulnerable Viktor all of a sudden, allowing Viktor to uppercut him from the ground.
-when he tackled Micheal (who was pretty shot up by deathdealers) as he charged straight towards him.

At no time did Viktor show super speed here. It was less about Viktor being fast but more of Micheal being a noob and allowing a much more skilled/experienced opponent who was comparatively as strong but tougher to get the better of him.

I prefer to go by what the movie actually shows, which is that Michael stopped using his speed, but you're free to ignore what is shown if that is what you really want to do.

Agreeing to disagree seems the only option at this point.

Viktor couldn't handle Lucian's speed in Rise of the Lycans. Even though lots of time passed between then and Underworld, it was abundantly clear that Hybrids>>>>>>>Anything normal.

The only reason Viktor made it through that fight is because Michael was half feral and reacting to the fight instead of taking it to him like he could have.

Good fight tbh.

Vik gets majority though.

If Michael had kept using his near-teleporting the entire time, those chumps with the guns should never have been able to tag him. He should have blitzed them in moments. So either he forgot he had superspeed (I call it Flash syndrome), or everyone else's speed and reaction times upped without any explanation.

Viktor still wins here though.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Viktor nailed Micheal 3 times (outside combos where Micheal was dazed):

-when Micheal chose to grapple and sneer at Viktor face-to-face. Allowing Viktor to counterattack by grabbing his face, pushing him down and grabbing his arm to toss against a column.
-when Micheal stopped attacking and stand in front of a kneeling, vulnerable Viktor all of a sudden, allowing Viktor to uppercut him from the ground.
-when he tackled Micheal (who was pretty shot up by deathdealers) as he charged straight towards him.

At no time did Viktor show super speed here. It was less about Viktor being fast but more of Micheal being a noob and allowing a much more skilled/experienced opponent who was comparatively as strong but tougher to get the better of him.

Literally NONE of what you said is uncommon in movies. I mean it's ridiculous you're using these examples to try and downplay what we saw. How often does a good or bad guy (usually bad) stand over the hero gloating allowing him time to recover? We even see this in real life fights. He literally BRIEFLY walks up to him likely ready to press the attack and pause FOR A MOMENT (you act like he just stood there for 1 minute) and Viktor catches him. Nothing overly unusual about the scene. As far as the scene where he sneers at him and each other, AGAIN nothing unusual about the scene. Punches are exchanged and it turns to grappling. Happens all the time in MMA... Street fight whatever. It happens. Nothing unusual there.

You're also forgetting that maybe Michael didn't "stop" using his speed but it was beaten out of him. Once Viktor lands the uppercut and series of punches.. Michael is never again able to gain an advantage striking or using his speed like he did ealier. Even when he wasn't teleporting he was still out speeding viktor to land blows. That all changed once he took some damage. The likely reason he stopped having the speed advantage is because he took damage and was not as fresh. Which again, reinforces the fact that if true, Michael can't use his speed to full effect in a prolonged fight.

^^ Huh. Can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Kurupt.

^^^ You have before you just hate to admit it 😛