The problem is the democrats usually get the majority of the black vote, and that right there pitches black democrats against a predominantly white conservative party.
GOP got most of the black vote until the Great Mississipi Great Flood of 1927. The way that situation was handled and Hoover lying to the blacks about helping them out, is what got Roosevelt elected and the great switch over to the Dems, and rightly so. The only problem I have with social programs is there is no component of sweat equity or paying the money back. At very least should be some clean up the park deal.
I did have a reply typed up that said black women are the least desirable race on OK Cupid (but that might be because obesity seems quite common with black community and obese people are less desirable on OKCupid...therefore, black women will have a tougher time....not sure on the percentages and if they match up but that could at least be partially to blame for the issue). But I forgot to finish it and gave up.
TI is not necessarily wrong about some of his points.
And appealing to a set of data that does not necessarily exist is not going to cut it. If you think black women are raped much more often than the FBI has compiled, where's your data? If you don't have it and it is pure conjecture (based on the idea that the Criminal Justice system is racist), then why state it? That comes off as racist, too.
Avoid racist opinions. Stick to the data.
Also, a better understanding of the FBI's data will help. Are they compiling convictions? No? What are they compiling?
Can we appeal to the idea that African Americans are less likely to report crimes to explain the rape asymmetry? Maybe?
That is a start. But I cannot find the multiple studies that show that blacks are less likely to report crime because Google search results are full of irrelevant links as the top results because too many people search for stuff that shows how unfairly blacks are treated (I would like relevant search results, Google, not the search results of American liberals...perhaps Google knows I am a social liberal and thinks I espouse the common tenants?).
Finally, this is a good post but I updated it to add 1 comma that makes it make more sense:
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No, crime is crime and it's up to each person whether they commit it or not.
This is true. Obviously, there are reasons for crime such as poverty. There are reasons for poverty such as subculture. Part of the African American poverty issue is subculture. Part of it is definitely racism. Lemme give an you example of why the Black-Poverty problem is at least partially due to racism:
http://career-advice.monster.com/in-the-office/workplace-issues/do-black-names-matter/article.aspx
When you have a tougher time getting a job because your mom decided to give you a "proper African American name", you cannot really say the responsibility rests solely on the black community's shoulders.
Here's some good news to lighten the mood: one of my black gal pals got pregnant and told me some of her name ideas. They were all "black sounding" names. I showed her this study and now she's considering other names. She should make me the godfather, dammit, because I may have just helped a kid get a good job in the future. uhuh
Originally posted by dadudemon
Here's some good news to lighten the mood: one of my black gal pals got pregnant and told me some of her name ideas. They were all "black sounding" names. I showed her this study and now she's considering other names. She should make me the godfather, dammit, because I may have just helped a kid get a good job in the future. uhuh
Originally posted by dadudemonAnd appealing to a set of data that does not necessarily exist is not going to cut it. If you think black women are raped much more often than the FBI has compiled, where's your data? If you don't have it and it is pure conjecture (based on the idea that the Criminal Justice system is racist), then why state it? That comes off as racist, too.
Avoid racist opinions. Stick to the data.
Also, a better understanding of the FBI's data will help. Are they compiling convictions? No? What are they compiling?
Can we appeal to the idea that African Americans are less likely to report crimes to explain the rape asymmetry? Maybe?
I don't think that black women are raped more by whites than the opposite, but I do find it questionable that it reported zero white on black rapes. I don't believe that is because none have happened. I don't think it's due to racism on the fbi's part either, but I dislike the idea that supra was pushing that black women are in no danger from white men but all white women are from black men.
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
I don't think that black women are raped more by whites than the opposite, but I do find it questionable that it reported zero white on black rapes. I don't believe that is because none have happened. I don't think it's due to racism on the fbi's part either, but I dislike the idea that supra was pushing that black women are in no danger from white men but all white women are from black men.
I'm positive black women are raped by white men. There's got to be at least one, each year. I mean, even that previous sentence seems utterly ridiculous. It's probably hundreds or thousands.
But my speculation is not factual. It's dishonest to pretend I'm right with my suspicion.
Hatred without reason most likely means that the person is a puppet on a string. We all are. If your reason for hating an entire ethnicity of people is for reasons such as; skin color, their going to take all of our women, my race is endangered of being erased, all of them are savages, it is quite likely that you have fallen prey to someone's views that are not your own, or how you originally viewed things.
In the 90's if you really opened your eves like I did, you could see that we as a people are lead like cattle. This force is so powerful that it can actually make you believe that what you are viewing this year in fashion is attractive, but next year it will become hideous. If you hate another race, or ethnicity for any reason, you are being lead like sheep. There are principalities, and powers at work over this world, and always have been. I dare you to disagree, because I would then launch a peer pressure campaign against all of the soft minded people that have actually been swayed by the media to believe that their poor social choices originated from their own minds.
You believe that you';re the wolves, but you aren't, you're sheep, and you are lead like cattle as you have always been lead for your entire life. We all are to an extent. Before you willfully become Jed the number 1 Racist, you had better check yourself. I mean only the soft headed follow. The problem is that 90% of people that you see in this life, are actually followers. You will see this when you walk outside, and see all of them sagging their pants. You may never realize it but racism leads to war, we as a people are being lead by a bigger force than we actually are. If you are unable to see it, I urge you to open your eyes.
Solid evidence that we are being lead by the media. Kids that watch music stars tend to choose their dress styles based on what is seen on the television.
If one politician makes a claim without showing the general populace both sides of the coin, you will have people running around saying that heath care is going to destroy this country. When we didn't have health care, we were still paying for it, but we weren't covered. The haves,will always fool the soft headed have nots. Guess what? 98% of people that you see are the have nots. That means you.
Originally posted by Stoic
The problem is that 90% of people that you see in this life, are actually followers.
Probably closer to 99.9% of people are followers, actually. Maybe even more than that: 99.99%.
Also, everyone is a follower of something. No one is a leader of every thought, movement, or tenet.
Originally posted by Quincy
Hey Stoic do you think we are lead like sheep or nah?
Yes we all are to an extent. Many of our own thought patterns didn't even come from us, but instead from what we were taught to believe.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Probably closer to 99.9% of people are followers, actually. Maybe even more than that: 99.99%.Also, everyone is a follower of something. No one is a leader of every thought, movement, or tenet.
Exactly. So people that have racist feelings or thoughts should check themselves. Everyone has a right to feel however they like, but this country is lead by idiots. This country was built to separate the people from one another. United we stand, divided we fall is bullsh!t. If you don't believe it, just do yourself/selves a favor, and visit the ghettos, then turn around and visit the upscale neighborhoods. It will give you a great deal of clarity. It goes much deeper than this though. It's on both sides of the fence. There are Black people that dislike White people and vice verse, and if you were to ask many of them they would have very weak reasons for feeling this way. Hate ultimately leads to violence, and the violence can sometimes escalate to wars. If you divide the people you weaken them. Blacks were taught during slavery not to trust each other, and that same mentality still exists today. Let's get down to the facts. The ethnicity's that trust each other, are the ones that get ahead. The ones that don't, won't, because they can't move past the simplest things in life. There was a study done on the least likely women to ever get married, and the highest percentage of women were Black. What are the reasons behind this? There has to be several.
I spoke to a friend not a full week ago, about his views on black people, and he said that he was racist to an extent. Our main topic was that he felt as if many of them were the scum of the Earth, and I asked why he felt like that. We touched on many topics. One that came up was Obama care. He told me everything that he had heard, but then I asked him if his job paid well, and what he would do if he lost his job. My point was that i wanted to bring a stark reality to his attention. This is what I said to him. i asked him how would he feel if he lost his job, and then got hurt? How would he pay for his treatment? I then gave him an example of what was actually going on several years ago amongst the have nots. I told him that I in fact know someone that became sick and worked in a minimum wage job. This person had children, his wife died, and he not only had to pay his rent, bills, and the expenses that it costs to raise two children, but now he had received an additional bill of 9000 from a hospital that he had no way of paying. His credit hit the bottom, and in turn he knew that if he lost the sh!tty jobs that he had, he would likely have a very difficult time finding another because many jobs will in fact check your credit score. I then asked him if he saw where I was going with this? People you really have to check yourselves, before listening to another persons opinion on things, because if you take everything at face value, you are in fact being lead. Sometimes it may be to your detriment. Sarah Palin is an idiot. How many other public speakers are out there poisoning the minds of people? You have to pick up your sword in order to cut through the bullsh!t. What is your sword? Knowledge.