Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Even though Odinson just had a showing that makes Wonder Woman's entire history look weaksauce this is still a close fight imo.I just don't think losing Mjolnir has done much to affect his effectiveness against regular heroes because he sticks very basic in those fights. It's against those high end beings or moments that Mjolnir pushes him to the cream of the crop such as during the God Bomb.
Imo at least.
I still favor Thor, at least if he gets to use lightning, but that's no shocker.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Thor swats her aside like a lowly Beyonder.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd like to point out that Thor actually tanked a blast from a Beyonder. Actually the only one in the comic to do so. Even blocked an attack.Starbrand was attacked but that killed him and Hyperion got his eye fingered out.
Have some heart. Peace and love.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd like to point out that Thor actually tanked a blast from a Beyonder. Actually the only one in the comic to do so. Even blocked an attack.Starbrand was attacked but that killed him and Hyperion got his eye fingered out.
Hell he stopped it with one arm.....not that he had another but yeah
Originally posted by celeyhyga17We still don't have an estimate of how fast Juvan moves. It could be 1000mph (super sonic) or just bullet speed. Anyway, Thor definitely has super speed (low level) as he can react to fast attacks from afar and has operated a single attack in several microseconds. No one should ever argue that.
Basically invisible, he was able to blitz Balder and nearly knocked him out. Balder is generally regarded as having one of the best reflexes of all Asgardians.http://i.imgur.com/h4D7jic.jpg
Just showing that when opponents using super speed is concerned, Thor is not completely useless as many would think.
Also, as far as Balder having great reflexes, DOS DD hit Superman before he could react. Superman then complained of his speed. Does that mean DD is faster than light, hence the "He's faster than flash" statement has some merit? I don't mind either way. I prefer DD to be as fast as flash actually.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It could be a trope, maybe. But The problem is that we don't really know how fast Juvan moved because we don't know how fast he can be on average. If he is bulletspeed then Thor simply reacted to bulletspeed. Someone being 'slow' is actually a relative term. A bullet is very fast to a human but very slow to Superman or Diana.
Lol. So despite boasting about his speed, agility, and durability, he was being slow?And as for the talking:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeActionIt's a trope.
Originally posted by h1a8Hehehe.. How fast is Wondy?
We still don't have an estimate of how fast Juvan moves. It could be 1000mph (super sonic) or just bullet speed. Anyway, Thor definitely has super speed (low level) as he can react to fast attacks from afar and has operated a single attack in several microseconds. No one should ever argue that.Also, as far as Balder having great reflexes, DOS DD hit Superman before he could react. Superman then complained of his speed. Does that mean DD is faster than light, hence the "He's faster than flash" statement has some merit? I don't mind either way. I prefer DD to be as fast as flash actually.
Anyways Juvan is most likely faster than your figure of 1000mph. We've seen Balder catch a magic bullet by his sword and swing it back at the source.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62144/1213541-thor__609_021.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62144/1213542-thor__609_022.jpg
Originally posted by h1a8No one is disagreeing that Wondy has the speed edge. But she has consistently been tagged by non-speedsters.
Divergent posts I see.Diana is much faster and more skilled that Thor and has hax weapons that would end the fight quickly and unfairly.
She can simply stun Thor and lasso him. Or simply lop off a limb or two.
Still haven't proven a skill advantage. Where's the definitive proof of this?
And as far as hax weapons, you can't get any haxxer than Jarnbjorn in cutting damage feats. She also has much inferior damage soak feats.
Plus add Thor's much superior ranged capabilities. Strong enough to end things quickly. Sorry H1.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17We all know Superman's feats, but DD was too fast for Superman at times, Superman even complained about his speed. Does that mean DD is much faster than light? If not then your Balder argument becomes weak. 1000mph is several times faster than a bullet. So that's being generous.
Hehehe.. How fast is Wondy?Anyways Juvan is most likely faster than your figure of 1000mph. We've seen Balder catch a magic bullet by his sword and swing it back at the source.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62144/1213541-thor__609_021.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62144/1213542-thor__609_022.jpgNo one is disagreeing that Wondy has the speed edge. But she has consistently been tagged by non-speedsters.
Still haven't proven a skill advantage. Where's the definitive proof of this?
And as far as hax weapons, you can't get any haxxer than Jarnbjorn in cutting damage feats. She also has much inferior damage soak feats.
Plus add Thor's much superior ranged capabilities. Strong enough to end things quickly. Sorry H1.
Originally posted by the DarkoneSpeed is far greater than all those advantages combined. Plus Diana has the one hit wonder in the lasso and the sword that could lop off limbs or blind Thor.
Thor wins the vast majority, just as skilled, stronger, more durable better damage soak ability and vastly more versatile in powers and abilities