Odinson -Vs- Wonder Woman

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Thor wins

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Heh.. Look at your posts first before you make that statement. Don't blame me just because you haven't provided anything of value.
Its alright celey, I know you are just rambling here but don't take that upon me. What have you done here other than claiming something than backpeddling from it?

Again. I'm not clinging to specific high end Thor feats here. While you on the other hand are resorting to lowballing as you sadly are so apt to do. It's just your MO.
Yes, you are. Its just sad that you think you don't.

How am I clinging to high end Gorr feats? Did I say that Diana would have to be Gorr level to beat Thor?
No, but the damage soak of Thor shown there as the average of Thor is certainly highballing. Thor has been taken out by much, much less than that.
High end feats for Thor vs Gorr is world shattering and absorbing the godbomb.
And fighting Gorr happened in that fight too. Its not just taking one scene from that fight. That entire fight was a high end feat for Thor.
Do you see me clinging to those? I hope you don't think his piercing and cutting damage soak in the god butcher/godbomb arc is high end..
And why not?
It would be dumb considering he's laughed off his liver being turned to glass. Or how about the time Apocalypse chucked Jarnbjorn right back at him. Phukker gets right back up as if a big @$$ axe was not just driven deep in his chest. Speaking of Apocalypse, the Apocalypse twins treated him like a slab of butcher meat. Thor walked through two volleys of countless blades from Uriel. He then tanked a wing slash to the face and upper body, a surprise claw slash again to his upper body, another slash to his already burnt shoulder/arm area, and a Jarnbjorn hack across his body. Even after all that damage from Eimin, he was never down for the count. And lets not forget about him still performing in top tier level even though he had a wound the size of a football at the side of his torso. How long was that like a year? You get it now?
All those are good feats and I wouldn't count them as high end feats but you have still no answer for a sword stab to the eye.

Keep ignoring what's on panel. I don't know whether you are lying or just plain ignorant of the scene in question. The JLA were fighting Darkseid for two whole issues for crying out loud.
She stabbed him alone after blocking his omega beams.
Heck Flash even threw Arthur at DS right after Diana's stab and stabbed Seid's other eye with trident.
So? Does it takes away from Diana stabbing him in the eye?

Maybe he'll just parry those like her. Amirite?
Considering the way he just takes slashing attacks, I don't think so.
You resorting to eye stabbing as her only hopes of winning pretty much tells me you have nothing left. Concession accepted.
No, its the easiest way to take him down. She can take him down by herself. He is no superman after all.

He'll use lightning before she ever gets close enough to stab. Thor 10/10 amirite? Concession accepted.
She can block lightning easily. Good, you are getting more desperate by moment.

Won't happen. She fries with continuous lightning shots. Let's play your dumb game to its fullest.
You mad bro?

Not desperation. Facts are my calling card.
Thou doth protest too much.
What I'm babbling about is things like not using fantasy scenarios like you. I know you know so don't play dumb.
So using actual scenes of stabbing someone in eyes is now fantasy scenario?

She will block many strikes. She won't block all.
Now you're just screaming foul.
With your retarded logic, she should never have been tagged by Moon, First Born, the Minotaur, Black Orchid, Element Woman, Green Lantern, Darkseid, Magog, Major Disaster, Aquaman.... The list goes on. You know since they're not speedsters. 😏
Getting punched is different from getting slashed by a weapon by a slowpoke like Thor. She has blocked even arrows by her bracers since she knows piercing is not a good defense for her. Why wouldn't she block the axe strikes other than your whining, that is?

Out of context? facepalm
Yes. With only his bare hands, he finished off a Hercules level character who just received a direct Celestial amp. 🙁
Gilgamesh wasn't as strong as either hercules or Thor before he got celestial amp. With that amp he was equal to Thor in strength. And it was after Thor got refreshed by electricity in celestial mothership and Hero was tired. Before that Thor was fighting hero with mjolnir for two issues and couldn't beat him. So yeah, out of context.

Yes. Why you say it's out of context is beyond me considering I included the part where it shows Thor removing his special shield.
Which removes his invulnerability?
Doesn't take away from the fact that Thor was handing beatdown on still extremely durable class 100 monster.
We don't know how durable cain was without that force field. And Thor raining down blows for a whole minute and unable to put down a class 100 doesn;t bodes well for him. Give that many punches to any top tier and he will finish a class 100 in less than one minute.
King Hype himself broke his hand on an even weaker version of Juggz.
And Thor with Luke Cage were unable to put down the same Juggy. It works both way.
Not durable? GTFO!
Do you have some kind of reading disorder?

Err... I brought it up because of your ignorance on the character.
Riiiiiiiiight.
You originally tried to equate him blocking Jarnbjorn with his arms to anyone remotely having enhanced durability as a means to lowball Thor's use of Jarnbjorn for striking...
The ****? Where did I say he blocked it with his bare arms?
Not ever knowing he can use his chi powers for shielding.
Hahaha, this guy.
Now you are making a useless comparison to her bracers to avoid the real point which is she will get hit by Thor. I never use red herrings. Not my mo.
So quit using red herrings like you are doing here. And stop bitching.

I'll keep giving you the same answer until you get it through your thick skull. The fact itt was a cheap shot, it was more damaging like almost all cheap shots in comics.
So you don't have anything to explain it in Thor's favor? Concession accepted.
He was completely unaware hence why he briefly fell to his knee.
Briefly? Did you read the same comic?
And even then, he was up shortly as if he never got stabbed by a ling ass spear.
Haha, sure. And ice shard is suddenly a spear and getting up after some time in another comic is just shortly. Anything for your sycophancy.
Finally this attempt to lowball does not matter considering the amount of physical damage he's soaked up and powered through. Look above for examples just in case it flew above your head again.
So all this and you just take it as a low end feat? So why bother with all this explaining?

No.. Look above again. One lightning shot it's over amirite? Hmm... Half a kilometer away from each other. Who do you think gets hit first. A stab on the eye or getting fried like a turkey? Wait. I'll give 2/10 for Wondy on the off chance she does stab his eye. shrug
Yeah, its not like she can move faster than a speedster like Supergirl can see and block the lightning? Its alright, I'll give Thor 3/10. Don't cry.

Erm... Her sword is not all that durable to be honest. I mean apart from disintegrating from Doomsdays aura/ blood, Katana broke it in a straight up sword clash. Justice League of America #6.. Look it up bruh. Guess what she used to break it with? Wait for it...... A NAMED sword called Soul Taker who is not even known for its durability.
Katana's soul taker is ****ing powerful as shit. Read some birds of prey. Its not because it has a name you dolt.
Man Jarnbjorn will most likely shatter any sword she summons. 😂
Bracers, look it up.
Hurts don't it?
Your idiocy, yeah it hurts my brain.

Look above if you can stomach the pain. While Gram as I explained earlier is a legendary Asgardian artifact. 😂
facepalm

Abhi continues to do what he claims of others making each and every post pure delicious irony.

Originally posted by Warrior Madness
Thor gets his butt kicked. Diana is much faster, more skilled and stronger. Oh, and she has a better magic weapon too.

It all depends on which one we're using.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Thor swats her aside like a lowly Beyonder.

Thor gives her the beyonder treatment.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not really. Unworthy Thor will most likely lop his head off. 😛
Nope. Fist **** confirmed. Thor would enjoy it too,

Please cite where it shows she has poison in her claws. Otherwise it's a straight up lie or complete ignorance. Flash was clawed twice and he didn't pass out.. Heck batman was clawed and he didn't pass out. He's a regular human..
I don't have the comic right now, but it seems her claws were poisoned IIRC. Let me check through my comic once I get to my laptop. And She did block several claw strikes from someone who was almost as fast as Flash. No way would Thor be able to go through her defenses.

No. He'll use lightning and power through her attacks with superior durability and damage soak.
Good luck with that while having no eyes to see once she stabs them out.

Again point it out so everyone can see. You never know, maybe I missed it.
Point what out?

You asked for opponents who have beaten her. Stop trying to talk with no sense since we know you're just trying to skirt around the real issue.
And you replied with something which doesn't apply to this fight. At all.

Look above. Again I gave examples of powerful oppenents beating Wondy.
Not exactly something Thor can do with his limited power set.

No. Orion performed better in #21. In issue 23, Wondy was bracer less and slightly outperformed Orion..
Even in that issue Orion drew blood from First Born and took several hits from him. Diana was out with a single divebomb. Orion was still a formidable top tier and Minotaur owned him like a feeb.

Stop moving the phukkin goalposts. You asked for who has pushed her shiet in. All the names I've mentioned have and all are powerful in their own right. It doesn't matter what powerset they have.
It does. Is Thor going to speedblitz Diana and slash her in throat?
Your Kryptonite Man is a dumb analogy considering two of whom I mentioned are powerful bricks and another has control of lightning.
No, it is not. Neither First Born or Minotaur were top tiers and Thor isn't koing whole Justice League. GTFO with that shit.

Complete lie. He was never ko'd by Barton's electric arrows. Hawkeye caught Taurus unaware while he was attacking Iron Man which momentarily reverted him back to human form, but quickly turned back to Taurus and proceeded to annihilate Tony. Don't think I forgot about your earlier lie concerning Thor getting one-shot by Taurus.
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Are you sure about that?

Again more ridiculousness from you in this reply... [/B]
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Are we seriously using Beyonder showing as a legitimate showing for Thor and not some serious jobbing from beyonders at this point?

I don't think even you would go that far Rage.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

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Didn't even have Mjlonir when he did it. This is just another addition to Thor other abstract fts.

So Thor beats hulk now, right Carver?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So Thor beats hulk now, right Carver?

Hickman said Hulk is the most powerful person on him team.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are we seriously using Beyonder showing as a legitimate showing for Thor and not some serious jobbing from beyonders at this point?

Are you seriously trying to lowball with the Bendis comic at every turn?

Yes.

It seems we are.

Originally posted by carver9
Hickman said Hulk is the most powerful person on him team.

He didn't. And that doesn't answer my question.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Are you seriously trying to lowball with the Bendis comic at every turn?

Yes.

It seems we are.


Lolwut?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Are you seriously trying to lowball with the Bendis comic at every turn?

Yes.

It seems we are.

Right?

Complaining about high feats when literally the entire argument is based not on proving how strong Wonder Woman is but on how weak Thor is by lowballing.

Strength matters not here since both are strong enough to affect the other.
WW, using her speed advantage, wins by stunning Thor with a blow and lassoing him up OR by lopping off a limb or two (or blinding him) with her sword.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its alright celey, I know you are just rambling here but don't take that upon me. What have you done here other than claiming something than backpeddling from it?

Backpeddling from what? Do you even know the term?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, you are. Its just sad that you think you don't.

No. If I was higballing I'd be saying things like she's need Beyonder level attacks just to hurt him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, but the damage soak of Thor shown there as the average of Thor is certainly highballing. Thor has been taken out by much, much less than that.

Abhi.. I just cited multiple sources of cutting/piercing damage that did not involve Gorr. And that's just a small sample.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And fighting Gorr happened in that fight too. Its not just taking one scene from that fight. That entire fight was a high end feat for Thor.

Not necessarily everything in the fight is high end since he has fought countless powerful opponents that should be beyond his pay grade. Plus it's not like he was dominating Gorr. He was getting his @$$ whooped.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And why not? All those are good feats and I wouldn't count them as high end feats but you have still no answer for a sword stab to the eye.

Again I've cited multiple feats that show his penchant for overcoming this type of damage.

Sure she can win a few from sword stab in the eye... 😂
You're reliance on such a scenario tells me and everyone else that you've all, but conceded his superiority even w/o Mjolnir.

Originally posted by abhilegend

She stabbed him alone after blocking his omega beams.

No shiet she stabbed him alone. It doesn't change the fact that DS was fighting the JLA and not just her. Please read the effin comic for crying out loud. This is a ridiculous stance you are clinging to.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So? Does it takes away from Diana stabbing him in the eye?

The point is, it is much easier to tag an opponent who is also preoccupied with multiple foes. And the way she tagged him was from an omega beam reflection. What's she going to do, reflect lightning beams from Thor's eyes? Pretty pathetic to cling to eye stabbing. One of the worst arguments I have ever seen.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Considering the way he just takes slashing attacks, I don't think so.

Lol.. Same reason she won't parry everything. The idea that she comes out of this unscathed is laughable. Your portrayal of untouchable Wondy just makes you look even more ridiculous in this thread than you already are.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, its the easiest way to take him down. She can take him down by herself. He is no superman after all.

Again with the eye stab. Phukkin hilarious. hysterical

Originally posted by abhilegend
She can block lightning easily. Good, you are getting more desperate by moment.

Riighttt.. Another dumb argument.
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Originally posted by abhilegend

You mad bro?

Thou doth protest too much.


Of course not. Just amused by the laughable arguments being made.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So using actual scenes of stabbing someone in eyes is now fantasy scenario?

It would be more believable if Wondy used such a tactic on a regular basis... Oh wait that's right. She doesn't. Also doesn't help that her opponent has virtually never had his eyes stabbed out by a bladed weapon.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Now you're just screaming foul.

Again you believe she will not get tagged once by Thor. facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Getting punched is different from getting slashed by a weapon by a slowpoke like Thor. She has blocked even arrows by her bracers since she knows piercing is not a good defense for her. Why wouldn't she block the axe strikes other than your whining, that is?

Smh.. Sure go ahead. You can continue to believe she comes out unscathed and will not get tagged by Jarnbjorn. 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend

Gilgamesh wasn't as strong as either hercules or Thor before he got celestial amp. With that amp he was equal to Thor in strength. And it was after Thor got refreshed by electricity in celestial mothership and Hero was tired. Before that Thor was fighting hero with mjolnir for two issues and couldn't beat him. So yeah, out of context.

Gilgamesh is the strongest of all Eternals and has been mistaken for Hercules many times throughout human history. He's also faced off Herc in a few panels and was narrated that the fight went on for much longer. The fact that he can go toe to toe with her for an extended period of time leads one to believe that he is around the same level or at last close to it.

No shiet he had Mjolnir. The point of the post was to show that even w/o Mjolnir, Thor is still formidable as heck and can finish opponents without it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Which removes his invulnerability?

In that comic, his shield was specifically shown to extend beyond his person and seemed to be at an all time high during that period. Juggz was still an extremely powerful foe w/o it. And the fact that a depowered version of him wasn't a walk in the park for a powerful character like King Hype is further proof of this. Just please stop the lowballing. It's pathetic.

Originally posted by abhilegend

We don't know how durable cain was without that force field. And Thor raining down blows for a whole minute and unable to put down a class 100 doesn;t bodes well for him. Give that many punches to any top tier and he will finish a class 100 in less than one minute.

Smh... Thor physically dominating that version of Juggz is not a detriment to him just because Juggz was not completely put down. Only a fool would stick with that notion.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And Thor with Luke Cage were unable to put down the same Juggy. It works both way. Do you have some kind of reading disorder?
Are you an idiot? He was getting the utter shiet kicked out of him. They weren't trying to fully hurt him. They were asking him to stand down. Your butchery of scenes and inability to comprehend is beyond me.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Riiiiiiiiight. The ****? Where did I say he blocked it with his bare arms? Hahaha, this guy. So quit using red herrings like you are doing here. And stop bitching.

You were lowball as usual and tried to equate Powerman 2.0 being able to block a Jarnbjorn attack from Thor as something of a low showing. When I pointed out that PM can use chimand extend it as shielding, you started you not making sense go to move. The fact that PM 2.0 started asking for help shortly should already raise red flags in your head, but you continued with your usual ridiculous statements in describing scenes. Even worse is you tried vehemently to prove that White Tiger beat the shiet out of Thor in the same scene. Phukkin sad.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So you don't have anything to explain it in Thor's favor? Concession accepted.

This guy.... You already know my stance and my reasons for Thor winning. You ignoring them, lowballing, and lacking valid and plausible reasons help your case is your problem.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Briefly? Did you read the same comic?

Yes.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, sure. And ice shard is suddenly a spear and getting up after some time in another comic is just shortly. Anything for your sycophancy.

Ice shard, ice spear it's all semantics. Bottom line is it was a long @$$ pointy weapon that was around his body length. Still doesn't change the fact it was a cheap shot.

He wasn't out a significant amount of time since we seem him blasting her with lightning not ling after her transformation.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So all this and you just take it as a low end feat? So why bother with all this explaining?

Not really low since it's a cheap shot. Why bother? Maybe because it was trying to be used as definitive proof to his "lack" of piercing/cutting damage.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, its not like she can move faster than a speedster like Supergirl can see and block the lightning? Its alright, I'll give Thor 3/10. Don't cry.

Err... Wondy can be hit by non speedsters. Thor has hit speedsters. Thor's lightning has hit an extremely fast opponent like Angela. This is a lame duck argument and you know it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Katana's soul taker is ****ing powerful as shit. Read some birds of prey. Its not because it has a name you dolt.

Wtf? Where in BoP was it shown to be the as powerful as you are trying to portray. Heck in her own series Killer Croc shattered it with a bite. Gtfo with this nonsense. You are not winning this part of the argument. Your best hope is to ignore proof. Oh wait, you've been doing that all thread long. 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bracers, look it up.

Not when she parries with her twig swords.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Your idiocy, yeah it hurts my brain.

facepalm


Concession accepted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Fist **** confirmed. Thor would enjoy it too,

Smh...

Originally posted by abhilegend

I don't have the comic right now, but it seems her claws were poisoned IIRC. Let me check through my comic once I get to my laptop. And She did block several claw strikes from someone who was almost as fast as Flash. No way would Thor be able to go through her defenses.

Wait you went from she had poison in her claws to it seems. I smell the beginnings of a back peddle. Yeah you go do that.. msn-wink

Originally posted by abhilegend

Good luck with that while having no eyes to see once she stabs them out.

Not gonna happen. Cute how you still think think this comes down to eye stabbing. lol1

Originally posted by abhilegend

Point what out?

Poison claws, what else?

Originally posted by abhilegend

And you replied with something which doesn't apply to this fight. At all.

Ermm... Skirting around this one huh? Lol.. You truly are the gift that keeps on giving. You asked for people who's beaten her, then are given valid answers... Now you hide by trying to throw away this portion of the argument because you've got no choice, but to concede this point is very sad.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not exactly something Thor can do with his limited power set.

A Thor w/o Mjolnir is still capable of taking a majority. If only you had made better arguments with valid proof and logical sense, you could have changed a lot of minds. Sadly your posts are sorely lacking.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Even in that issue Orion drew blood from First Born and took several hits from him. Diana was out with a single divebomb. Orion was still a formidable top tier and Minotaur owned him like a feeb.

Err... Diana drew blood from him too. Orion got ko'd by getting thrown to a pillar then having part of the pillar slammed in him. Diana got ko'd from a dive bomb from the sky...

Originally posted by abhilegend

It does. Is Thor going to speedblitz Diana and slash her in throat?

Keep ignoring proof. You simply asked for who has beaten her to portray as if she was unbeaten. Proof was given. This goalpost attempt is getting really tired and sad.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, it is not. Neither First Born or Minotaur were top tiers and Thor isn't koing whole Justice League. GTFO with that shit.

Of course they are. Only a dolt would say otherwise.

Thor doesn't need to ko the whole league to ko her using lightning. Another useless argument from you.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Concession accepted.

Taurus wasn't one shotted. He proceeded to annihilate Iron Man right after your scans. I already explained the scene. Again with your complete butchery of scenes.

😆

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Riighttt.. Another dumb argument.
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Wonder Woman stabs Superman's eye out?