Odinson -Vs- Wonder Woman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's your MO, not mine. You are the one who was trying to exhaust everyone else by dividing one post by replying in three posts. Don't cry now.
I have to explain your own MO to you? How about reading your own pile of shit?

Lol this guy and his pile of extra added bs.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He was dropped for a certain period of time. You are trying to act like he wasn't even harmed by it. That's some weak shit.

Short period of time, but in the end looked like he was unfazed by having a spear driven through his chest.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Not really. Getting his inside eaten and fighting isn't a regular showing for Thor. No matter how you try to paint it. So you say. Under that very same writer Angela pushed his shit in by far less damage even though he was a bit weakened. By your token, he would've laughed at that damage.

A bit weakened is a stretch considering he faced a force that was described as having endless numbers. It was also shown that they used machines of war called dreadnoughts. I can't fathom how you can ignore context here. You are the wirst.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Because no one has tried. Who said its the only way? I'm just enjoying your mental gymnastics here about why it wouldn't work. See Darkseid.

Hey you are the one clinging hard on this scenario. Obvious that you need for this scenario to happen to have any chance of her winning.

Originally posted by abhilegend

When she stabbed him, she was alone. Nobody helped her. Who else helped her in that scene?

The fuk? No she wasn't. The JLA were there. In fact the page in which sets up the eyestab had Cyborg and AQ on e same panel. And you forget AQ with the help if Flash stabs the other eye on the very next page. No one helped her directly, but they were fighting him as a team. This puts DS at a severe disadvantage since he won't be able to focus on just one opponent. Pretty simple logic really.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Great logic genius. So you think he can beat entire JLA on his own? Say yes please. If you are so sure why don't you say it?Can Thor beat entire JLA on his own?
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Easily blocks lightning by her sword.

Wtf... Ocean Master ko'd her with lightning. Why are you needlessly bunching the whole JLA? For one it was only Wondy, Supes, and AQ who were hit with lightning in the scene. Secondly, their damage soak/durability was not stacked one on top of the other. Many powerful characters caught in that lightning shot would most probably have been ko'd. And yes Thor can produce a wide enough lightning blast that can incapacitate multiple powerful people. It's no different from Superman ko'ing powerful characters if they're caught in his solar flare or a wide angle heat vision.

And your blocks lightning scene is dubious. No one was even attacking her. She just proclaimed her acceptance as the God of War and lightning from the sky is shown and a small streak looked to be attracted to her sword. Probably for dramatic effect. You are sad.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes? Why wouldn't she?

Block every Jarnbjorn strike? Might as well say she will be completely unscathed considering you think she can block lightning too. Say it please. hysterical

Originally posted by abhilegend

Does not changes the fact that he was weaker than Thor in Gilgamesh form. He was also stated to be equal to Thor in Hero form. So either Herc was weaker than Thor or you two are just using circular logic to boost Thor up. Not hard to see what's going on here. quote]The idea that he is not around Herc/Thor level is another dumb stance.
Oh really?
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You are comparing that scene to an actual fight scene where it counts more? Are you kidding me? Strength is not the only thing that makes one high tier. He is a powerful character. Forgotten one even though not a household character has always been shown as being top tier through, statements, portrayals, and comparative showings with other top tiers. Answer this. Is he closer to a high end brick or closer to a Thing or Colossus?

Originally posted by abhilegend

After hitting him with Mjolnir for like twenty times? Why don't you post the whole fight? Oh right, I will.
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Sigh... If we go by an on panel count of how many times Thor smacked Gil with the hammer, it would only be two. Twenty times huh? No one is disagreeing with you that a Thor w/Mjolnir was fighting Gilgamesh for most of the fight. But Thor was fighting a guy who was augmented "far mightier even than before" by TOAA(Celestial). And even when Mjolnir was not in his hand, he still showed his formidability w/o it by finishing off Gilgamesh with his fists.

Sin I AM Madame Mort

cely and abhi ruining threads

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
He stated he was as strong as Thor in that story. So Thor couldn't ko a Thor level being after punching him like fifty times? Not that good.
His helmet. He physically broke Juggernaut, breaking his knees and arms. Did you even read the comic?
That's the only thing you can say? Anybody questioning you is dumb?

Juggz also stated he is still resistant to all pain and injury... And as strong as ever. Where you got 50 is beyond me. Thor was physically dominating a powerful opponent and a top tier brick.

King Hype hurt his hand on Juggz's head. Juggy actually referred to how hard his head is after. Endless fact checking with you.

Just realize Thor was dominating a top tier foe w/o Mjolnir. You questioning Juggz's power in order to obfuscate the real point is quite transparent and is tiresome... And quite frankly pathetic.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So what's your point? That Thor can't put a Thor level being after punching him over like fifty times? Weaksauce.
Haha, GTFO. Juggy couldn't hit him once in the whole scene. Thor didn't overpower him once in the whole fight. It was specifically hi getting beat up. WTF? So just denying everything now? Cry more.

Look above for the point. Accept it and move on.

Read the damn comic. Juggy was able to leap and land a blow from the air. When Thor hit him with a haymaker, Juggz was unable to retaliate as Thor schooled him on levels of power that can't be housed in mortal limbs... So the comic said.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So you cited that because apparently nothing. Good, good.
No, it just shows how desperate you are.
Denying once more. Concession accepted.

Thor with Jarn was beginning to overpower Powerman. Your attempt to lowball does not change this fact.

Again faulty reasoning by using a scene with a cheap shot that ultimately showed Thor was not worse for wear.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He was slightly weakened. Where he was hit exactly twice.
Getting hit twice means he was suddenly like Spider-man level, right?
So, his healing just took a dive. Riiiiight. Angela is no wonder woman of course. Where was Thor's Hulk level damage soak in that fight Celey?

He just fought as was described, an endless army of warriors ffs. A fight that happened predominantly off panel. You are either butchering the scans or choosing to ignore the story n panel. facepalm

This isn't a question of healing. Again understand and acknowledge context. Fought a whole army then got suprised by her. A fight that he never wanted in the first place.
No one is comparing Angela to Wondy. She is not on that level yet.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yet, it shattered Diana's sword under a different writer. Inconsistency in comics? OMG!!! Are you high or something?
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Bwahahahahahaha. Energy beams don't destroy metallic objects!!!!!!!!!

Which beings us back to my original point to Diana's weapons. They are not the picture of durability since it has complete disintegrated and has been shattered by a blade that isn't that tough to begin with.

Get it right. I said don't USUALLY destroy. Don't put words in my mouth. Only a fool would agree that using energy is as common to see as using physical force to destroy strong metallic objects in comics.

h1a8 Senior Member

Strength matters not here since both are strong enough to affect the other.
WW, using her speed advantage, wins by stunning Thor with a blow and lassoing him up OR by lopping off a limb or two (or blinding him) with her sword.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. I read it again and she doesn't have poison in her claws.

So now you agree she had no poison in her claws. 😂
Now why do you think she suddenly blacked out after getting a slash to the throat? Hmmm.....

Originally posted by abhilegend

She has been beaten by lighting once. Thor has been beaten by lightning more than that.

No. Major disaster was absolutely owning her with predominantly weather attacks. When he attacked with lightnîng, she was basically done.
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Originally posted by abhilegend

No, she didn't. Orion also took a direct hit from FB. Are you lowballing Orion now?
😂

She landed a blow that made him spit blood right before she blitzed him to the sky.

Not lowballing Orion since FB is strong as phukk.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He did get turned back to his human form and stunned by his electrical arrows. So Tony took more than one hit to get down? Did or did not Thor went down like a ***** compared to ****ing Iron man?

He shifted then shifted right back. So you agree he was never ko'd? Taurus was also amped to a godlike as was stated.

Tony took about 2. Doesn't really matter how many hits Tony took since Thor wasnt one shotted as you said and both were beaten by a very powerful foe. Only thing that matters is you were caught on another lie and as usual forced to back track.

Why do you always do it to yourself?

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Sin I AM
cely and abhi ruining threads

What? We're like the only ones keeping the thread going and it's all in good fun.

Let's see you add something.

Sin I AM Madame Mort

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What? We're like the only ones keeping the thread going and it's all in good fun.
Let's see you add something.

Hulk wins....finito

LordofBrooklyn Senior Member

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, that just means you need to bathe soon....

You'd be wise to watch your tone!

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by h1a8
Strength matters not here since both are strong enough to affect the other.
WW, using her speed advantage, wins by stunning Thor with a blow and lassoing him up OR by lopping off a limb or two (or blinding him) with her sword.

Strength matters especially when one is stronger than the other.
Already showed you Thor dealing with foes that move fast and powerful opponents he's beat down even w/o Mjolnir.

Lassoing him up can be used the same way lightning blasts can be used on her.

He's stronger, more durable, better ranged, stronger weapon, just as skilled if not more so. His advantages far outweigh hers.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Strength matters especially when one is stronger than the other.
Already showed you Thor dealing with foes that move fast and powerful opponents he's beat down even w/o Mjolnir.
Lassoing him up can be used the same way lightning blasts can be used on her.
He's stronger, more durable, better ranged, stronger weapon, just as skilled if not more so. His advantages far outweigh hers.

It's really cute how you repeat the same thing over and over again.

But yeah, no point with arguing you over this. You are officially Carver level right now.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's really cute how you repeat the same thing over and over again.
But yeah, no point with arguing you over this. You are officially Carver level right now.

Concession accepted. 👆

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Concession accepted. 👆

Last word syndrome strikes again it seems.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
I mentioned that earlier that Thor was weakened. Doesn't matter though, Angela is no Wonder Woman.
Yeah, because Angela and Wonder Woman both are totally similar in power level......
Except Angela is nowhere near as fast as Diana and doesn't have her physical powers. And lulz @ her being a mid herald.
We have gone over this, Hero was never depowered in that story. Gilgamesh was weaker than Thor decisively and as Hero he admitted Thor was his equal in strength. That either means Roy Thomas thought Herc was weaker than Thor or off panel fights aren't decisive. After all Hero fought Thor evenly too untill Thor got an electricity recharge.
Not really. He wasn't stated to be depowered anywhere in the story itself.
And after being amped, equal to Thor. So not that big of an amp.
Yeah, sure. Let's stick with that.

Angela claimed she was faster than Mjolnir (I'd disagree but gives us an idea of what her speed is intended to be) and successfully blocked the Disir's curse attack (Their instantaneous speed blitz which even took the from the pits of Hel to the Guardian's cruiser which is so fast it might as well be teleportation) with her speed:

"Faster than lightning. Faster than thought."

If Diana is faster than her reflexes wise, I'd argue it isn't by much, after that scene anyways.

In Thor #287 Hero notes how the Celestials bring him back to life and make him "far mightier than ever before":

Then in Thor #289 the Celestials return him back to the Eternals and it's pointed out that "he's transformed back into that which he once was before":

Again, Hero was made far stronger by the Celestials when he fought Thor and underwent "metamorphisis" back into his previous form when returned. He was downgraded significantly when he fought Hercules and was clearly intended to be his relative equal (Or close to it since I consider Hercules to be a very high end elite).

The fact that this showing offends you or may be contradictory to Thor's past with Hercules is an entirely different discussion and doesn't change the facts of this story.

Anyways, the scans and issue numbers are there for whoever wants to read them. I will no longer waste anytime trying to convince you in particular otherwise.

SamZED Senior Member

Do they still call Thor Odinson now that it's a "she"?

krisblaze Senior Member

Originally posted by SamZED
Do they still call Thor Odinson now that it's a "she"?

We deliberately call the original Thor for Odinson.

Thor is used about the female one.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Angela claimed she was faster than Mjolnir (I'd disagree but gives us an idea of what her speed is intended to be) and successfully blocked the Disir's curse attack (Their instantaneous speed blitz which even took the from the pits of Hel to the Guardian's cruiser which is so fast it might as well be teleportation) with her speed:

"Faster than lightning. Faster than thought."
If Diana is faster than her reflexes wise, I'd argue it isn't by much, after that scene anyways.
In Thor #287 Hero notes how the Celestials bring him back to life and make him "far mightier than ever before":

Then in Thor #289 the Celestials return him back to the Eternals and it's pointed out that "he's transformed back into that which he once was before":

Again, Hero was made far stronger by the Celestials when he fought Thor and underwent "metamorphisis" back into his previous form when returned. He was downgraded significantly when he fought Hercules and was clearly intended to be his relative equal (Or close to it since I consider Hercules to be a very high end elite).
The fact that this showing offends you or may be contradictory to Thor's past with Hercules is an entirely different discussion and doesn't change the facts of this story.
Anyways, the scans and issue numbers are there for whoever wants to read them. I will no longer waste anytime trying to convince you in particular otherwise.

I've explained the same thing with Hero on another thread. Knowing him he'll just ignore it again.

h1a8 Senior Member

WW simply wins by stunning Thor and lassoing him or just by lopping off limbs.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by h1a8
WW simply wins by stunning Thor and lassoing him or just by lopping off limbs.

Right. Especially Thor w/o Mjolnir is still formidable as heck and has faced of and defeated extremely powerful opponents. Now he gets Jarnbjorn too? Pshhh... If you can show me a list more impressive than who Thor has faced w/o Mjolnir and still came out looking good then you have something..

quanchi112 Disney

Thor wins.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Right. Especially Thor w/o Mjolnir is still formidable as heck and has faced of and defeated extremely powerful opponents. Now he gets Jarnbjorn too? Pshhh... If you can show me a list more impressive than who Thor has faced w/o Mjolnir and still came out looking good then you have something..

abc logic only works if neither of the compared characters bring something to the table that is significantly different. WW has a lasso plus speed plus sword. This alone is radically different than what Thor has faced and did well against. Thor defeating powerful opponents that doesn't possess those things is irrelevant and leads to faulty logic.