Odinson -Vs- Wonder Woman

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Right. Especially Thor w/o Mjolnir is still formidable as heck and has faced of and defeated extremely powerful opponents. Now he gets Jarnbjorn too? Pshhh... If you can show me a list more impressive than who Thor has faced w/o Mjolnir and still came out looking good then you have something..

Thor was hammerless when he fought Juggernaut when he negated Cain mystical force field and almost ended Juggernaut with a few blows. WW will do well she would rely on her skills and her refelxes, her speed is not an issue. Thor has WW in every category strength, durability, damage soak, equally skilled Thor more experience. Thor is more versatile with his abilities even without the hammer.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor was hammerless when he fought Juggernaut when he negated Cain mystical force field and almost ended Juggernaut with a few blows. WW will do well she would rely on her skills and her refelxes, her speed is not an issue. Thor has WW in every category strength, durability, damage soak, equally skilled Thor more experience. Thor is more versatile with his abilities even without the hammer.

Originally posted by h1a8
If she is significantly faster than her speed is definitely an issue. She can stun Thor and then lasso him with hardly any problems. She can also lop off a limb or two with no problems.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cutting attacks don't affect Thor.

😂

facepalm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uh Thor in Roger Stern's run was afflicted with the brittle burns curse. Arguably the most defining arc of his run (Assault on Olympus) has it as a major plot point:

See the fight with Zeus as well.

And he can't die but he does feel pain (He's actually in constant agony during this era) and is weaker than ever. Not that he did die as we see in the preview of the next issue where he's standing unharmed before Ultron.:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=40758&disp=ilib&oty=1&oid=60849

Also, we actually see Hulk starting to regrow his head in the preview as well so that turns out to be a ridiculous healing feat actually:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=40757&disp=ilib&oty=1&oid=60849

But don't let facts get in the way of mindless lowballing.

Where is this preview? Because all if showed was that Lady Thor would take on future Thor.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sV8PfnQPT3k/VRxK40tdNMI/AAAAAAAJj_A/ci0nnCOB0G4/s1600/p5_34%2Bcopy.jpg

So the link for this preview where Thor is alright?

Since apparently clicking links is so difficult.

Rage posted it. It shows Hulk regrowing a human head and 3 Thors in front of Ultrodin

Alright, you edited after I posted. So Thor isn't actually dead. And what's with hulk growing Banner' head? Looks like some context is involved. Oh well.

Most people would just post stupid stuff in the ownage thread and laugh at any replies.

Not abhi. He'll repost it. Argue about it. Blatantly lie about it a couple times. Demand proof. Post "proof". And then usually say it was only a joke when all else fails.

All in an attempt to try and demean a character. Because he got stabbed at the end of an issue.

You know a guy doesn't have ulterior motives when his first reaction to a question is to lie about it. Humorous sequence of events. Talk about jumping the gun. He's still trying to argue about it when his initial issue has been soundly silenced since he needs this.

I just posted this here because I didn't want to post in the ownage thread again about it. Cue everyone else whining when it diverged from buttpain.

Let me give you a piece of advice before I go to bed abhi. Fact checking would be the top one.

Lying about things isn't exactly going to bring about "trust" when you argue with essentially the same people you lie to. How easy is it to be right when everything you say comes from a misinterpretter or a liar? Roadblocks in your quest to eradicate celey if you ask me. If I just came out and started shitting on celey it'd carry extra "humiliation" than if you did. Not because of any sort of mondo cool debating skills or anything, but because I usually am in the ballpark of correct assessments when it comes to comics. Everytime a lie is caught in a debate it takes away a lot from the issue at hand. Any sort of wrongness should be steered away from, not embraced and repeated. Celey isn't completely stupid. He catches on and uses it to downplay your opinion before the debate is even considered.

As well as not every piece of "evidence" is important. Which I can guess is your reason for this little spectacle. You realize you see yourself using it down the line or in the immediate future so it has to be important now. Look where that got you. Wrong on every point.

And stop using the ownage thread for your campaigns. People care less if it's in a self contained shit hole like this thread. But everytime you do it in there it's just awful. I don't give a **** if it's Thor or anyone else, it's just when you actively pursue it, it looks really ****ing stupid.

Not that this will be taken into consideration at all but I needed to type something while late night pooping before bed.

Don't hold up your anger bran at some misleading comic. Just because I didn't knew about the preview of the next comic, I was just trying to demean the characters. It's not like the actual comic showed the same thing.....

Oh wait, it did.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't hold up your anger bran at some misleading comic. Just because I didn't knew about the preview of the next comic, I was just trying to demean the characters. It's not like the actual comic showed the same thing.....

Oh wait, it did.

You said the comic showed Thor dying, it was Roger Stern Thor who didn't have brittle bones, and the blog confirmed they all died. I'm not sure the comic showed that... at all. Which stemmed from a celey debate here, which you posted to downplay Thor

Like, why are you still trying to defend this? Nothing you said was right.

Anyway, bed. Curious where this leads.

Don't hold up your anger bran at some misleading comic. Just because I didn't knew about the preview of the next comic, I was just trying to demean the characters. It's not like the actual comic showed the same thing.....

Oh wait, it did.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Why would I be mad at you being wrong? I'm just trying to help you from looking like an idiot in the most popular thread.

You said the comic showed Thor dying, it was Roger Stern Thor who didn't have brittle bones, and the blog confirmed they all died. I'm not sure the comic showed that... at all. Which stemmed from a celey debate here, which you posted to downplay Thor

Like, why are you still trying to defend this? Nothing you said was right.

Anyway, bed. Curious where this leads.

Yeah, I said that. Because as I said, the comic suggested that the three old Avengers died. If not for the preview, nobody could have predicted that Hulk could regrow his ****ing head.

I'm not defending anything. All I said that the end of the comic was misleading.

Nowhere. I accepted I was wrong for this comic, what else is there to say?

I think we all learned something today. Not to get too excited about the latest comic, because anything can happen.

For instance, we know for a fact Hulk never 'died' - because he has to go back to his own time to grow up into Doc Green etc.

Abhi what does your scan prove? You don't even know what happens next. If going by Rage's scan, you might have just put your foot in your mouth again.
Now again, what does it prove? Sure Thor can be hurt by blade weapons, but what I've been saying all thread long is that he'll just power through it like he's done over and over.
I already gave you a ton of such examples and I ain't repeating them again. You choosing to ignore them is your prerogative.
You should have stuck with eye stabbing. Probably her best chance of winning which gives her what? Like 2/10... 😂
He simply can reach another level she can't compete with.

@H1
I've already posted multiple examples of Thor's ranged superiority and Wondy's inability to deal with lightning. Speed is not an issue since he has dealt with countless foes with incredible speed and has not been overwhelmed. Heck he just recently fought Angela in her own book and was able to keep up.
He's stronger, more durable, more powerful, has a more powerful bladed weapon, and just as skilled if not more.
Up to now you haven't showed anything that she's done or beaten that's more impressive than what Thor's done or who he's beaten even w/o Mjolnir.

Mjolnir obviously gave Thor extra abilities that furthered his formidability. But the idea that he turns into some useless chump is being ignorant of the character.

In fact when not using on Mjolnir, he can be just as dangerous if forced to rely on his innate abilities.

Knocks Tempus the pluck out. This servant of Immortus has taken on teams of heroes.
http://i.imgur.com/5OoIi8f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vu2FY4j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2GcnMq8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2qeiS1O.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oa3uk5d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sYAhYbi.jpg

Survives Loki's assault who still had a portion of Dormmamu's amp. Then knocks him the pukk out.
http://i.imgur.com/Wpi6unP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2LRzRRy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a10KNsK.jpg

Beat down a powerful half elven demon lord who slew whole populations of gods and dwarves. His strength was stated to be that of "a horde of giants".
http://i.imgur.com/C0wrvYg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oAxlrKk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nBkVswK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hl4qQxT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WqEIupy.jpg

One of the High Evolutionary's more physically powerful creations Karnivore(Man-Beast), was dominated by Thor not using Mjolnir. This guy can go rounds with top tiers like Hulk and Adam Warlock. He was even seen ripping the High Evolutionary apart.
http://i.imgur.com/W8rZpGd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oNIjZcE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5qcJGD5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zTScj8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JlhP7Q0.jpg

Beats the tar out of an Adam Warlock who was a top tier physically in this incarnation.
http://i.imgur.com/nbECY24.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wqq3Lm7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MoTgVMh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NELa07j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zbusQPm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HGtMaLg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FwyxLNY.jpg

Just utterly owns Loki and Fenris who both wielded nearly Mjolnir level weapons.
Cap - "Still Mighty Thor even without your hammer."
http://i.imgur.com/8sJzrxq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iO4FFEH.jpg

Overpowers Durok with nothing but pure strength then fries him with a herald killing lightning shot. Durok was molded by Karnilla then further empowered by Loki using the Odin force. Built to be virtually unstoppable, he's already beaten the living shiet out of both Thor and Surfer in the past.
http://i.imgur.com/GDyb8Ng.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ku5jg3F.jpg

Seeing that Thor has relied on Mjolnir too much and believed it was becoming a crutch, Odin stripped him of his hammer for a period of one year. A day came when a warlord Orlog who was stated to be a whopping 4x Thor's strength came knocking. Relying only on his innate abilities, Thor showed why he's still the God of Thunder Mjolnir or not. We later find out it was Odin him self playing the part of a powerful warlord who he beat that day Mjolnirless.
http://i.imgur.com/b8jY0yS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3BgFAIM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3VkzWRh.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Abhi what does your scan prove? You don't even know what happens next. If going by Rage's scan, you might have just put your foot in your mouth again.
Now again, what does it prove? Sure Thor can be hurt by blade weapons, but what I've been saying all thread long is that he'll just power through it like he's done over and over.
I already gave you a ton of such examples and I ain't repeating them again. You choosing to ignore them is your prerogative.
You should have stuck with eye stabbing. Probably her best chance of winning which gives her what? Like 2/10... 😂
He simply can reach another level she can't compete with.

@H1
I've already posted multiple examples of Thor's ranged superiority and Wondy's inability to deal with lightning. Speed is not an issue since he has dealt with countless foes with incredible speed and has not been overwhelmed. Heck he just recently fought Angela in her own book and was able to keep up.
He's stronger, more durable, more powerful, has a more powerful bladed weapon, and just as skilled if not more.
Up to now you haven't showed anything that she's done or beaten that's more impressive than what Thor's done or who he's beaten even w/o Mjolnir.

Mjolnir obviously gave Thor extra abilities that furthered his formidability. But the idea that he turns into some useless chump is being ignorant of the character.

In fact when not using on Mjolnir, he can be just as dangerous if forced to rely on his innate abilities.

Knocks Tempus the pluck out. This servant of Immortus has taken on teams of heroes.
http://i.imgur.com/5OoIi8f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vu2FY4j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2GcnMq8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2qeiS1O.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Oa3uk5d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sYAhYbi.jpg

Survives Loki's assault who still had a portion of Dormmamu's amp. Then knocks him the pukk out.
http://i.imgur.com/Wpi6unP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2LRzRRy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a10KNsK.jpg

Beat down a powerful half elven demon lord who slew whole populations of gods and dwarves. His strength was stated to be that of "a horde of giants".
http://i.imgur.com/C0wrvYg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oAxlrKk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nBkVswK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hl4qQxT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WqEIupy.jpg

One of the High Evolutionary's more physically powerful creations Karnivore(Man-Beast), was dominated by Thor not using Mjolnir. This guy can go rounds with top tiers like Hulk and Adam Warlock. He was even seen ripping the High Evolutionary apart.
http://i.imgur.com/W8rZpGd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oNIjZcE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5qcJGD5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zTScj8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JlhP7Q0.jpg

Beats the tar out of an Adam Warlock who was a top tier physically in this incarnation.
http://i.imgur.com/nbECY24.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wqq3Lm7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MoTgVMh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NELa07j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zbusQPm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HGtMaLg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FwyxLNY.jpg

Just utterly owns Loki and Fenris who both wielded nearly Mjolnir level weapons.
Cap - "Still Mighty Thor even without your hammer."
http://i.imgur.com/8sJzrxq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iO4FFEH.jpg

Overpowers Durok with nothing but pure strength then fries him with a herald killing lightning shot. Durok was molded by Karnilla then further empowered by Loki using the Odin force. Built to be virtually unstoppable, he's already beaten the living shiet out of both Thor and Surfer in the past.
http://i.imgur.com/GDyb8Ng.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gdgbKt6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ku5jg3F.jpg

Seeing that Thor has relied on Mjolnir too much and believed it was becoming a crutch, Odin stripped him of his hammer for a period of one year. A day came when a warlord Orlog who was stated to be a whopping 4x Thor's strength came knocking. Relying only on his innate abilities, Thor showed why he's still the God of Thunder Mjolnir or not. We later find out it was Odin him self playing the part of a powerful warlord who he beat that day Mjolnirless.
http://i.imgur.com/b8jY0yS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3BgFAIM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3VkzWRh.jpg

Angela is not as fast as WW (feat wise) and Thor got his ass handed to him. You give him credit for actually losing to her?
WW can easily block multiple light speed attacks. Blocking lightning (which is slower) is no issue in a forum fight. If you argue that Thor will suddenly spam lightning right off the bat then he will have a chance here (depending on how fast he can summon it). But if you argue that Thor will not spam lightning the moment the bell rings then he simply loses everytime with ease. WW is quicker and more agile. She would have no problems lassoing him up or slicing off a limb (or two) or stabbing Thor's eyes.

Lastly, Thor fighting a character that normally possess superspeed doesn't mean that character was using their top speed (or any superspeed) against him in that comic. Characters are often written without their speed for the sake of the plot.

Originally posted by h1a8
Angela is not as fast as WW (feat wise) and Thor got his ass handed to him. You give him credit for actually losing to her?
WW can easily block multiple light speed attacks.

What are Wondy's, best speed feats.

Originally posted by h1a8

Blocking lightning (which is slower) is no issue in a forum fight. If you argue that Thor will suddenly spam lightning right off the bat then he will have a chance here (depending on how fast he can summon it). But if you argue that Thor will not spam lightning the moment the bell rings then he simply loses everytime with ease. WW is quicker and more agile. She would have no problems lassoing him up or slicing off a limb (or two) or stabbing Thor's eyes.

Originally posted by h1a8

Lastly, Thor fighting a character that normally possess superspeed doesn't mean that character was using their top speed (or any superspeed) against him in that comic. Characters are often written without their speed for the sake of the plot.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The fight I was talking about was Angela vs Odinson w/Jarnbjorn in her own book. Even w/o Mjolnir, speed was not an issue.

What are Wondy's, best speed feats.

How is she going to block a big @$$ lightning blast from the heavens? It doesn't help that she's been owned twice by lightning already. He doesn't need to spam it. She's not blocking or dodging easily.

Angela was admittedly using her speed the first time she fought Thor(weakened). The second time they fought she started off with a blindsided attack and he was still recovering from his torture. In that fight he stated that even though she was nimble, he eventually found her measure and had her dead to rights. It would be pretty dumb for Angela not to use her speed when Marvel has been touting it non-stop in almost all her appearances.