Daughter of Two Moms Comes Out Against Gay Marriage

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/daughter-of-two-moms-comes-out-against-gay-113987192687.html

What do you guys think about this?

Wishing for a father that actually cared & loved her instead of having a dead beat one that wasn't there...has nothing to do with gay marriages.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Wishing for a father that actually cared & loved her instead of having a dead beat one that wasn't there...has nothing to do with gay marriages.

She's got daddy abandonment issues and is lashing out at the people who by her own account loved her and taught her “how to be brave,” have “empathy,” “how to listen,” and “how to stand up for myself, even if that means I stand alone."

She's a ****ing ungrateful turd, imo. She's cute though; would smash

Originally posted by Robtard
She's cute though; would smash

She's been smashed at least 4 times having 4 kids n'all.

Didn't read... Let me guess it's some religion thing?

Best outlaw gay marriage, then.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/daughter-of-two-moms-comes-out-against-gay-113987192687.html

What do you guys think about this?

The lady's right. A second mom doesn't really take the place of a good father.

That ungrateful b1tch

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
The lady's right. A second mom doesn't really take the place of a good father.

I agree that the optimal child-rearing home contains a kind and active father and a kind and active mother (active as in actively parenting and caring for the children). No one with a shred of honesty would dispute that.

But it is highly likely that a home with 2 fathers who are also kind and active, may have similar positive results as the first option (doesn't matter: could be mothers, too).

People from the LGBTQ community like to point to a recently (2010) released study as evidence that Lesbian Mothers have children that are above average in multiple areas compared to the population.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/126/1/28.full

However, there are very clear issues with this study. The issues are so severe that the science appears to be put together but quacks to fit an agenda (that should be obvious: funding came from a Lesbian organization).* In order for this study to be valid, they need to compare their results to:

1. Straight couples who remained together, on average, as long as the lesbian mothers.
2. Straight couples with similar SES (education and income) levels.
3. Also received artificial insemination.
4. Also volunteered to be studied for 15-20 years during the same period of time and maintained a 93% retention rate through the end of the study.

None of those 4 criteria were met/compared in straight couples that the sample group contained. And people are just supposed to accept the "science." Also when a study says the following, "Despite more than 3 decades of cross-sectional research demonstrating that the psychological adjustment of children is unrelated to their parents' sexual orientation...", you can be sure there is a clear bias because one of the biggest criticisms of this particular area is lack of good studies with good samples.

Here's my conclusion: if it can be shown that, on average, lesbian and gay couples have a 7% worse outcome for children, who cares? If we make it illegal for them to have/adopt children (or condemn them), then we need to do the same for mothers who are over 38 years (due to the increase in birth defects). It's a slippery slope argument. Now, if someone out there conducts a genuine study, a good study, not this bullshit from Regnerus or Gantrell and Bos, and they show that children of homosexual parents have severely worse outcomes, yeah, perhaps we should consider setting up some programs to help those children (notice I didn't say make it illegal for them to raise children?).

*"The NLLFS was supported in part by grants from the Gill Foundation, the Lesbian Health Fund of the Gay Lesbian Medical Association, Horizons Foundation, and the Roy Scrivner Fund of the American Psychological Foundation. Funding sources played no role in the design or conduct of the study; the management, analysis, or interpretation of the data; or the preparation, review, or approval of the manuscript."

Originally posted by dadudemon
(notice I didn't say make it illegal for them to raise children?).

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Wishing for a father that actually cared & loved her instead of having a dead beat one that wasn't there...has nothing to do with gay marriages.

She had two mothers.

I really have no opinion on this, but you seem to not be getting her point.

Originally posted by Existere
nor illegal for them to marry.

I sincerely apologize if I implied anything that did not agree with what you said, here. Equal marriage rights has been something I've strongly supported for quite some time.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't there a lot of people lacking a mother or a father that don't go around making rants like this woman? I mean, well, you didn't have a father, too bad. Get over it geez.

This girl seems VERY ungrateful and childish imo.

Originally posted by dadudemon

I agree that the optimal child-rearing home contains a kind and active father and a kind and active mother
(active as in actively parenting and caring for the children).

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't there a lot of people lacking a mother or a father that don't go around making rants like this woman? I mean, well, you didn't have a father, too bad. Get over it geez.

This girl seems VERY ungrateful and childish imo.

But there are also a lot of people that go around whining and resenting their missing parent, too.

"Where was my father?"

"Where was my mother?" Etc.

Trust me. I live in Oklahoma. Lots of single parents...lots of teen pregnancy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
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I sincerely apologize if I implied anything that did not agree with what you said, here. Equal marriage rights has been something I've strongly supported for quite some time.

I just wanted to echo the obvious point: this 'daughter of two moms' has voiced a concern over gay parenting (and her father's abandonment), and used it to speak out against gay marriage. You were quoting bluewaterrider, who doesn't seem to understand that the issues are distinct, and all this missing-dad-angst is totally misplaced.

I guess I can get her point, she craved masculine influence and wanted it.

This whole forum backlash of spoilage is kinda dumb, who strides to be mediocre?

Originally posted by Existere
No, not at all.

I just wanted to echo the obvious point: this 'daughter of two moms' has voiced a concern over gay parenting (and her father's abandonment), and used it to speak out against gay marriage. You were quoting bluewaterrider, who doesn't seem to understand that the issues are distinct, and all this missing-dad-angst is totally misplaced.

I don't see them as all that distinct.

One reason that a lot of marriages do not make it, is that people use transient feelings as the basis of their marriage.

Marriage has to be about more than that; the lifespan of a marriage based only on feeling and nothing else is about 4 years, if memory serves.

What's going to be the effect of a movement that espouses, "follow your feelings", your ever-changing, volatile feelings, in a serious relationship, especially one which is, ideally, a lifelong commitment?

Her father left the situation. Whether or not her mother married another woman is irrelevant, he still wouldn't have been in her life. Blaming this on gay marriage or whatever is so stupid, and she fails to view anything outside of her context. You know what would have happened? She would've been living under a single mother instead of two caring ones. She honestly is extremely ungrateful and she basically just betrayed her moms, in my opinion. It's really sad.