Re: Re: Daughter of Two Moms Comes Out Against Gay Marriage
Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree that the optimal child-rearing home contains a kind and active father and a kind and active mother (active as in actively parenting and caring for the children). No one with a shred of honesty would dispute that.
Oh really?
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Her father left the situation. Whether or not her mother married another woman is irrelevant, he still wouldn't have been in her life. Blaming this on gay marriage or whatever is so stupid, and she fails to view anything outside of her context. You know what would have happened? She would've been living under a single mother instead of two caring ones. She honestly is extremely ungrateful and she basically just betrayed her moms, in my opinion. It's really sad.
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It's wrong, and ****ed up.
She needs to get slapped, opinions are ok, as long as they aren't heartless, messed-up opinion.
Like people saying "Rape is ok in certain situations".
Also, this.
Why does it bother you so much? Don't be part of their lives, but don't try to ruin their relationship, you selfish *****.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
It's wrong, and ****ed up.She needs to get slapped, opinions are ok, as long as they aren't heartless, messed-up opinion.
Like people saying "Rape is ok in certain situations".
Also, this.
Why does it bother you so much? Don't be part of their lives, but don't try to ruin their relationship, you selfish *****.
Like physically slapped? And who's going to be the one to do it? You, tough guy?
Whether you think her opinion is right or wrong is one thing, but she's free to express it. Thankfully, no one can stop her from doing so.
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryI believe it's wrong to hit women, my sister punched me in the face and I didn't even restrain her.
Like physically slapped? And who's going to be the one to do it? You, tough guy?Whether you think her opinion is right or wrong is one thing, but she's free to express it. Thankfully, no one can stop her from doing so.
Also, if your opinion is messed up, I will go against it in every way, shape, and form.
Homophobia isn't a thing, people are just assholes that want a perfect world.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I believe it's wrong to hit women, my sister punched me in the face and I didn't even restrain her.Also, if your opinion is messed up, I will go against it in every way, shape, and form.
Homophobia isn't a thing, people are just assholes that want a perfect world.
So who's gonna do the slapping then?
Even to the point of trying to make it illegal to express it?
Wanting a perfect world makes one an *******?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Society's view of a perfect world is all normal people, no gay marriage, no interracial marriages even. It's wrong to judge someone based on sexual preference, its not about the law, it should just be right/wrong.
You sure that's how society thinks? How would you even determine that? I would say that your idea of what society thinks would be a perfect world is quite naive.
And how many people did you have to hit because they expressed opinions you thought were 'wrong'?
So you're saying that it's OK to use physical violence as long as the parties are of the same gender?
Think about it, more then half the world is against gay marriage, some countries, you will even be executed for doing so. We live in an awful world where we have to worry about being hated for just about anything, even after you finish high school, college. There will always be that one person that looks at you in disgust if you are gay, or different. What shes doing is wrong, end of story. Maybe shes conflicted emotional, but trying to ruin her mother's happiness is not the way to go about dealing with her abandonment issues.
Originally posted by Mindset
She wished she had a father.She had two mothers.
I really have no opinion on this, but you seem to not be getting her point.
I get her point...based on her own words, describing her father.
"Wasn't a great guy."
"Didn't bother coming around anymore."
Her point is that she wanted a loving father...regardless of her mother's choice of partners.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
As long as it isn't bullying. Btw, what I meant by "pissing me off", is trying to bully me or such, or pick on me. But yes, being against gay marriage is wrong, and you're a horrible human being for saying otherwise.
I agree that being against gay marriage is wrong, but it does not necessarily make one a horrible human being(least of all defending somebody's right to that opinion). I could easily turn around and call you a horrible person for advocating physical violence against people with whom you disagree. Of course, it's not that simple. Just 100 years ago 99.999% of people were against gay marriage, but does that mean that the world was inhabited solely by terrible human beings back then?
Somebody said things. Let's extrapolate political and social implications from it!
It's not that I agree with the discussion taking place. It's that the premise for inciting the discussion is so shallow that it almost begs to be led into unproductive tracks. A comprehensive, if summarized, analysis of the subject based on literature and research would be an appropriate jumping-off point. Even if no one changed their minds, we'd probably learn something. A Yahoo article about an angry girl, however, is not such an analysis.
Re: Daughter of Two Moms Comes Out Against Gay Marriage
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
The lady's right. A second mom doesn't really take the place of a good father.
I'll disagree with that. Having two parents will generally trump one, but saying 'one individual is better than another' is data we don't have, and is very hard to control for, and a lot of the benefits of having two parents, i.e. having more time to be with the kid, multiple points of view, etc., are present in both. Heck, a lot of the stereotypical 'dad does' or 'mom does' stuff can truthfully come from either side.
Additionally, I'll note there are plenty of cases where parents break up but still both support the kid. So sometimes? It means *three* parents.
Sometimes, it means having two where there would be one.
Sometimes, it means 2 just as good as 2, sometimes it means a better pair, sometimes worse. People are people, parents are parents. People of either sex can be just as good parents.