Using non-modified Wade's speed feats to claim that Wolverine is a bullet timer is problematic because, by that logic, Mystique, Jugs, Creed, Gambit, Deathstrike etc. are all bullet timers as well, because all those people are at least his equal in speed. The guy with the throwing spikes in X3 was virtually Logan's exact equal in speed (they stab each other at the same time, but Logan heals). Can we call him a bullet timer because he was close in speed with someone who kept up with Barakapool? Shingen is a regular, un-enhanced human, and he had no problems keeping up with Logan when they fought. In fact, he landed a number of hits that Logan simply tanked. Does that make Shingen a bullet timer as well?
Wade never shows the same level of speed after the Weapon X transformation, so Logan barely keeping up with a mind-controlled Deadpool does not make him a bullet timer.
Originally posted by ScooblessThat was an outlier, he has never been out that long from that little damage again. He has even taken similar attacks and not even been ko'd and 4 or 5 times.
2 or 3.... But when he's out he stays out for at least a couple of minutes.When Sabretooth knocked him out he didn't wake up until he was transported from Canada to Xavier's home
Anyway, I'm not saying he can't be knocked out, but he has feats that show that it's hard to accomplish.
Originally posted by Genesis-SoldierThat was X2.
wolverine was shot in the head in X-Men 3 and tat put him down for a while. whilst logan would eventually kill all the xeno's it would take alot of time he would go through so much pain and dismemberment and flesh melting acid... i see him going insane and breaking down by the end of it
He can't be dismembered.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Wolverine obviously had trouble with Barakspool's speed. It's not like he was landing blow per blow. Plus Creed helped him out.
Teleportation was the big issue for Wolverine IIRC
By all means, show us Deadpool using that level of speed in his fight with Wolverine.
Ah yes the last ditch downplayers tactic "oh yeah, well.... uh.... prove he was going that fast!"
Seriously, it's not like Deadpool was holding back at any point against Wolverine, or Deadpool was far above Wolverine before he was modified
Originally posted by Silent Master
mindcontrolleddidn't show anywhere near bullet-time level speed while fighting Wolverine.
"Kill"
All they did was put simple commands into his head. Nothing else. Deadpool still had FULL control over his body and was moving on his own after the command.
There were no bullets in that fight.
Going by your logic, Superman fights as fast as Wolverine 🙂
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Originally posted by Silent Master
Except that Wade was shown to be much faster than Wolverine before he became Deadpool, as for after the surgery, he was being mindcontrolled and didn't show anywhere near bullet-time level speed while fighting Wolverine.
Yeah you obviously don't know how to powerscale, full stop
By this set of logic Cell vs Goku was much faster than Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu or Sensui's attacks are far more powerful than Raizen's or Lion El Jonson's attacks are more powerful than the God Emperor because they appeared more flashy. Or most characters in fiction aren't even Mach 1 because we can see them move despite having feats well above that
Powerscaling>stylistic portrayal
If you want to claim that Wolverine is a bullet-timer, post the feats.
Being able to fight Deadpool without getting outright speedblitzed and being on his level before he was modified :zaru
Bottom line is that you have no proof that Deadpool was using bullet-time level speed in the Wolverine fight. Plus Wolverine has been in 6 movies now and has never shown bullet-time speed himself, he has in fact been hit by bullets and people with normal speed multiple times.
So even if we were to grant him BT level speed in that scene(which we don't) it would fall under PIS and thus be unusable for debates.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Bottom line is that you have no proof that Deadpool was using bullet-time level speed in the Wolverine fight.Plus Wolverine has been in 6 movies now and has never shown bullet-time speed himself, he has in fact been hit by bullets and people with normal speed multiple times.
So even if we were to grant him BT level speed in that scene(which we don't) it would fall under PIS and thus be unusable for debates.
I guess Superman and spiderman fight as fast as normal people.
Superman has been tagged by bullets as well. Is he below bullet speed now?
Yet you spam the log and bullet scenes even though he has feats above those as well.
And again going by your logic, Wolverine fights as fast as spiderman and Superman.
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