Wolverine vs Aliens

Originally posted by Impediment
Since when has film Wolverine shown BT feats? Wolvie couldn't even dodge the bullet to the temple in X2.

I've been asked to make a ruling and I'm gonna need some input, guys. All bullshit aside.

Essentially, his proof that Wolverine has BT (bullet timer) "feats" is that he fought Deadpool.

Who has, (pre-upgrade) demonstrated BT "feats". And thru the virtue of "powerscaling" translates to Wolverine.

That's about it.

Edit. I also went to the extent of providing counterproof. Such as the cop shooting him and (most definitive of all proof) the instance in Days of Future Past where an actual bullet-timer+ (Quicksilver) performed BT "feats" in front of Wolverine wherein Wolverine was an unmoving statue throughout.

BT?

Bullet timing

I think Logan is a Bulls Eye, everyone get's their shot on target.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Essentially, his proof that Wolverine has BT (bullet timer) "feats" is that he fought Deadpool.

Who has, (pre-upgrade) demonstrated BT "feats". And thru the virtue of "powerscaling" translates to Wolverine.

That's about it.

Edit. I also went to the extent of providing counterproof. Such as the cop shooting him and (most definitive of all proof) the instance in Days of Future Past where an actual bullet-timer+ (Quicksilver) performed BT "feats" in front of Wolverine wherein Wolverine was an unmoving statue throughout.

First of all, Wolvie didn't fight Deadpool; he fought Barakapool. LOLZ.

Movie Quicksilver's insane speed is beyond what comic book 616 QS has ever shown, so BT isn't even a comparable term, if you ask me.

Wade Wilson in Wolvie Origins may have been able to deflect machine gun fire with his swords and, yes, spin around to slice a bullet in half to hit two separate ta targets...........but how do those feats automatically qualify/bump Wolvie to "bullet timer" status?

Originally posted by Impediment
First of all, Wolvie didn't fight Deadpool; he fought Barakapool. LOLZ.

Movie Quicksilver's insane speed is beyond what comic book 616 QS has ever shown, so BT isn't even a comparable term, if you ask me.

Wade Wilson in Wolvie Origins may have been able to deflect machine gun fire with his swords and, yes, spin around to slice a bullet in half to hit two separate ta targets...........but how do those feats automatically qualify/bump Wolvie to "bullet timer" status?

Well, don't ask ME! I'm not the one arguing that. 😛

Stealth keeps repeating "power scaling". So I'm assuming that's his basis.

Yeah, but power scaling in this thread is presumptuous.

Wolverine on screen has never shown bullet time feats.

Originally posted by Impediment
Yeah, but power scaling in this thread is presumptuous.

Wolverine on screen has never shown bullet time feats.

Agree. 👆

Originally posted by Impediment
First of all, Wolvie didn't fight Deadpool; he fought Barakapool. LOLZ.

Movie Quicksilver's insane speed is beyond what comic book 616 QS has ever shown, so BT isn't even a comparable term, if you ask me.

Wade Wilson in Wolvie Origins may have been able to deflect machine gun fire with his swords and, yes, spin around to slice a bullet in half to hit two separate ta targets...........but how do those feats automatically qualify/bump Wolvie to "bullet timer" status?

His argument is that because Wade used that level of speed in the beginning of the movie, Barakapool must have been using that same level of speed in his fight with Wolverine and thus Wolverine must also be a bullet-timer since he was able to tag Barakapool.

He also thinks that we should ignore 6 movies worth of feats that show Wolverine being normal human in speed.

Wolverine on film does not have bullet time feats.

This is Impediment's ruling.

Thank you and drive through.

(Off to go eat dinner with my family.)

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Superman, DBZ characters, Primarchs, etc who have feats way the **** into the multi-mach digits range have been hit by bullets too several times. Not really much of a justification

Hell, like I said, comic Wolverine has quantifiable speed feats, even he's been hit by bullets

Yeah, pretty much what I figured, your entire argument relies on making unquantified statements based on how something "looks" and assuming Deadpool's speed is some kind of technique specific to him (which it isn't)

Also

"Gotenks never zipped around the earth several times when fighting Super Buu"

"Yusuke didn't zip around mountain ranges when Raizen slapped him silly"

"There was no expilcit mention of microsecond movement when Angron blitzed Kharn, Lorgar blitzed Argel Tal, etc"

"Sailor Moon didn't zip around a galaxy when she fought Galaxia"

This essentially your argument. Of course I expect reliance of flashy speed tropes as "justification"

Your entire argument is based on the fact that Wolverine fought an opponent who previously showed BT speed and thus Wolverine must have BT speed. You fail to consider that WOlverine has never, not once, ever shown BT speed. You also fail to consider that there have been multiple opponents who've tagged Wolverine who didn't have BT speeds. How do you explain that?

And also... this thread has nothing to do with DBZ. Please stay on topic.

Failed to see Impediment's ruling. Guess that ends the debate.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Your entire argument is based on the fact that Wolverine fought an opponent who previously showed BT speed and thus Wolverine must have BT speed. You fail to consider that WOlverine has never, not once, ever shown BT speed. You also fail to consider that there have been multiple opponents who've tagged Wolverine who didn't have BT speeds. How do you explain that?

And also... this thread has nothing to do with DBZ. Please stay on topic.

His explanation is that everyone that Wolverine has ever fought has bullet-time speed and so does everyone that they ever fought.

IOW, even guys like the Blob and Juggernaut have bullet-time speed. oh, don't forget all the random thugs and soldiers that Logan has fought.

Originally posted by Silent Master
His explanation is that everyone that Wolverine has ever fought has bullet-time speed and so does everyone that they ever fought.

IOW, even guys like the Blob and Juggernaut have bullet-time speed. oh, don't forget all the random thugs and soldiers that Logan has fought.

IMO there is a much more reasonable and logical explanation to this.

Having had his DNA experimented on and blended with multiple other mutants to give him extra powers, an unknown amount of adamantium pumped into his body, and having his brain rewired to respond to commands from a computer with less processing power than my cellphone had some negative effects on Wade's speed and reactions.

Personally, this makes a lot more sense to me than the majority of notable characters in the x-verse, including regular humans and a giant obese guy, being bullet timers, despite the very distinct lack of bullet time feats between them.

It comes down to this... it doesn't matter if Wolverine is a bullet timer in the truest sense of the word. It's irrelevant. Wolverine has shown the ability to hit people and keep up with bullet timers. That's all that needs to be said.

Wolverine has never kept up with someone that was actually using bullet-time speed.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It comes down to this... it doesn't matter if Wolverine is a bullet timer in the truest sense of the word. It's irrelevant. Wolverine has shown the ability to hit people and keep up with bullet timers. That's all that needs to be said.

I don't agree.

Funny thing is, even if you were right, that has no relevance to this debate as there are no bullet timers for him to need to keep up with.

Xenomorphs aren't bullet timers and neither is Wolverine.

End of discussion.

Back to topic, please.

Doesn't matter if he is or isn't.. he can keep up with them. Just like it didn't matter that Chavez or Ramirez weren't as fast as whitaker or Comacho.. They were still able to hit them even being vastly slower. So yes, Wolverine can keep up with BT as evidenced by his fight with Dealpool

Anyone can keep up with a bullet-timer if sed BT'er isn't actively using that level of speed. but as Imp said to drop it.. I'll just say that Logan loses.