Originally posted by Blair Wind
Which is great, and I think DC has a strong offering in TV, but quantity =/= quality. I think they are good, so it's just a matter of scaling that up, but not all of them will be hits like Arrow/Flash (and they might have been if they were all connected, but nooooo).Marvel is just doing a better job at creating their shared universe - live action all goes together, comic stuff all goes together.
DC is currently fractured on both ends.
DC/WB doesn't intend to have a TV shared universe, so it really doesn't matter. Asside from the Arrow/Flash thing. I'd rather have stand alones than everything connected.
Quality wise, it's all subjective, but DC does have the diversity edge, which is important, IMO.
^Which is the main problem, I think.
By not having everything connected they continually diminish the brand instead of trying to utilize synergy. People's expectations of shared world's was created (and I mean this for the masses and recently) by Marvel. Being Anti-Marvel doesn't make DC stronger in this case - it leaves fans confused. Each new string makes the whole stronger - people who like Iron Man are going to watch Daredevil because it's part of the Marvel Universe.
Constantine is currently suffering, and I can't help but think that an Oliver Queen or Barry cameo may help.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
^Which is the main problem, I think.By not having everything connected they continually diminish the brand instead of trying to utilize synergy. People's expectations of shared world's was created (and I mean this for the masses and recently) by Marvel. Being Anti-Marvel doesn't make DC stronger in this case - it leaves fans confused. Each new string makes the whole stronger - people who like Iron Man are going to watch Daredevil because it's part of the Marvel Universe.
Constantine is currently suffering, and I can't help but think that an Oliver Queen or Barry cameo may help.
I actually don't want that. Constantine works in his own corner of the universe and that's how it should be. Constantine has decent ratings overall, but not for NBC. People actually are trying to save the show and it might be saved by switching the show to another channel.
Supposedly Agents of SHIELD is taking ratings hit and Agent Carter isn't doing all that great (Some say it won't last 3 seasons), yet those are all apart of the MCCU.
Not everything needs to be connected for it to be a success. Gotham for example will survive next season.
And then you have Vertigo shows in the works as well.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Thor is pretty much my favorite character in all of creative fiction. But, that said, his movies suck. The entire affair just reeks of not trying to be offensive. I can't stand the fact that they make the Asgardians aliens instead of gods, and worse yet, they take every opportunity to remind the viewers of this just to be sure they don't offend some goober in Eastern Texas. I straight up almost barfed when Natalie Portman was correcting Freyja (or whoever that was) on the fuctionality of that Asgardian device. Seriously, phuck that.Make a movie that's true to Thor's character, with all of the mythology in tact, stop trying to appease the Bible Belt and make a movie for real fans.
Oh I hear you. But I had to turn my brain off for most of that. I understand its supposed to be politically correct and that I have to deal with that I guess. I like to think that most people wouldn't get offended by them being "gods" or all white like you'd think nordic gods would be, and slightly beyond the understanding of jane foster at that point in her relationship with Thor, but what can you do.
Originally posted by iceman24567
IZombie probably wont last more than 1 season
I haven't watch it yet, but so far the ratings have been good, since it's on the CW. It's been holding well so far with solid reviews. I can see it going for another season. There wasn't that many TPB's to complete the story, so it could go for a few more seasons and that would be it.
Originally posted by Golgo13Its not a good show imo Constantine is better hopefully its moved to the CW
I haven't watch it yet, but so far the ratings have been good, since it's on the CW. It's been holding well so far with solid reviews. I can see it going for another season. There wasn't that many TPB's to complete the story, so it could go for a few more seasons and that would be it.
Originally posted by carver9
What good Marvel films do they have minus Spiderman, Ironman, and Avengers? The last Xmen movie was good but the rest sucked.
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The first 3 X-Men movies rocked and so did both of the F4 movies. I agree that Avengers was also very good but the new Spidey movies suck balls big time (original trilogy was really good though). Iron Man movies were pretty decent but nothing to write home about.
Oh yeah, Wolverine was really good too and I hate that character.
DC, of course, has the better animated movies by far. I have most of them on blu-ray and I never get tired of watching them. The only Marvel animations I liked was the Hulk vs Thor/Hulk vs Wolverine double feature disc.
Like Blair said, Marvel is probably dominating DC is the eye of the public.
That's probably because movies reach most people.
Comics is a wash, both companies have been actively crippling their best books the last 10 years.
I don't follow merchandise.
Animated movies is a clear win for DC.
TV shows is in DC's court but neither are really putting up quality stuff.
Originally posted by BentleyNot in the least.
I thought Marvel sucked at comics back when Bendis was in Avengers.Since then they have done their best to prove they can suck, much much more.
Although Rem's Avengers kind of sucks but it's nowhere near Bendis. Bendis has ceased trying in the least though since he's been off the Avengers/Sentry so it'd be even worse now.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Like Blair said, Marvel is probably dominating DC is the eye of the public.That's probably because movies reach most people.
Comics is a wash, both companies have been actively crippling their best books the last 10 years.
I don't follow merchandise.
Animated movies is a clear win for DC.
TV shows is in DC's court but neither are really putting up quality stuff.
huh? i think both arrow and flash have been outstanding. i think having ray palmer show up in arrow has been hilarious (i think they are slowly building toward a jla team....) of course there are differences between show and book, but i'm fine with that and think the shows have pulled off the changes in ways that work really well. shield has been good enough, but not great. i think suicide squad is on the horizon which i think will be really good as well.
marvel owns the movies for now. looking forward to batman/superman and i'm jacked for the jla movie release. REALLY jacked....
i call the books a push, and merchandise? meh, who cares. 🙂
^Leo, not sure if you're aware, but Firestorm, Atom, Captain Cold,
Spoiler:, Hawkwoman, and Rip Hunter are all going to be in an Arrow/Flash Universe spinoff.
Original Canary (Sarah)
To be honest, I've always preferred the DC Universe over the Marvel universe. Besides Iron Man, Spiderman and the X-men, none of the other characters ever really grabbed me. But I can admit Marvel currently owns DC in just about everything that matters.
Also, early reviews of Daredevil are putting it at an outstanding Netflix level.
Originally posted by leonidas
huh? i think both arrow and flash have been outstanding. i think having ray palmer show up in arrow has been hilarious (i think they are slowly building toward a jla team....) of course there are differences between show and book, but i'm fine with that and think the shows have pulled off the changes in ways that work really well. shield has been good enough, but not great. i think suicide squad is on the horizon which i think will be really good as well.
Outstanding compared to what though?
They're way better than Marvel's TV, but I still think they're pretty poor as far as television goes.
I watch arrow, hoping it'll get better, but me and the missus more or less watched the first 2 seasons of arrrow because they were comically bad.
The Flash hasn't disappointed me but the shows are still painfully predictable, a lot of bad dialogue and paper thing characters.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Like Blair said, Marvel is probably dominating DC is the eye of the public.That's probably because movies reach most people.
Comics is a wash, both companies have been actively crippling their best books the last 10 years.
I don't follow merchandise.
Animated movies is a clear win for DC.
TV shows is in DC's court but neither are really putting up quality stuff.
Marvel has merchandise down hard. The reason Kevin Tsujihara wanted to release a 10 film slate was so he can close the gap by at least half in the coming years.
That's the great thing about movies and the relation between merchandise. Obviously Marvel has had more films coming out in the past several years and now WB is going to bank on the profits by releasing at least 2 films a year now.