Is Marvel dominating DC

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
^Leo, not sure if you're aware, but Firestorm, Atom, Captain Cold,
Spoiler:
Original Canary (Sarah)
, Hawkwoman, and Rip Hunter are all going to be in an Arrow/Flash Universe spinoff.

To be honest, I've always preferred the DC Universe over the Marvel universe. Besides Iron Man, Spiderman and the X-men, none of the other characters ever really grabbed me. But I can admit Marvel currently owns DC in just about everything that matters.

Animated films don't matter? That's news to me. I enjoy them just as much if not more than non-animated movies. And I don't give a shit about merchandise. It doesn't matter to me at all. I haven't read any comics recently but most people seem to think their about even in that area. Video games I have to give a clear edge to DC and those, although not too important, are more so than merchandise to me. Really, non-animated movies is the only area that matters to me in which Marvel is clearly dominating DC.

I think you are placing too much emphasis on the value of non-animated movies as if they are >>>>>> than everything else. Maybe that's true to you but most certainly not me. And I don't really care what the general public's opinion is or the fact that non-animated movies are what get the most attention from them.

DC is really slaughtering Marvel in the video game department. Animation too although DC Animated movies have kind of suffered from Bruce Timm leaving the animation department, their still better than Marvel's animated efforts.

Nothing against Dc,I have been a marvel zombie since 1972.Always thought Marvel was more for adults,DC for kids.Super friends ect.,where so bad zan and jana wonderdog ect.,gave me a permanent bias against D.C.And most of marvel movie are better,I like Superman and Batman,but then you have guys like myxylplic who i can`t stand a cosmic dummy with such power!

Everything you just said can be flipped on it's head for either company

Originally posted by zom1967
Nothing against Dc,I have been a marvel zombie since 1972.Always thought Marvel was more for adults,DC for kids.Super friends ect.,where so bad zan and jana wonderdog ect.,gave me a permanent bias against D.C.And most of marvel movie are better,I like Superman and Batman,but then you have guys like myxylplic who i can`t stand a cosmic dummy with such power!

It's funny you say that about Marvel being for adults and DC being for kids because it always seemed the other way around to me.

Somehow, despite the heroes very rarely killing, DC always seemed waaay darker to me.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Somehow, despite the heroes very rarely killing, DC always seemed waaay darker to me.
👆 same here.

Couldn't see marvel doing a story like Identity crisis

Originally posted by Blair Wind
^Leo, not sure if you're aware, but Firestorm, Atom, Captain Cold,
Spoiler:
Original Canary (Sarah)
, Hawkwoman, and Rip Hunter are all going to be in an Arrow/Flash Universe spinoff.

To be honest, I've always preferred the DC Universe over the Marvel universe. Besides Iron Man, Spiderman and the X-men, none of the other characters ever really grabbed me. But I can admit Marvel currently owns DC in just about everything that matters.

Also, early reviews of Daredevil are putting it at an outstanding Netflix level.

yeah, i'd read about most of that, though the rip hunter is news to me. that would be cool. 👆 dc was what i first grew up reading, then marvel sort of took over but i've always kept up with cd. hard to say which universe i prefer. not sure if you're right or not about the owning. to me books are about equal (dc might be slightly ahead atm imo--marvel's never done anything like multiversity...) movies are clearly marvel's (though dark knight was at least as good as anything in marvel). tv series are clearly dc's imo, but i am looking very forward to daredevil. 👆

Originally posted by krisblaze
Outstanding compared to what though?

They're way better than Marvel's TV, but I still think they're pretty poor as far as television goes.

I watch arrow, hoping it'll get better, but me and the missus more or less watched the first 2 seasons of arrrow because they were comically bad.

The Flash hasn't disappointed me but the shows are still painfully predictable, a lot of bad dialogue and paper thing characters.

i'd disagree pretty much completely with your assessment of arrow. my kids and i love it. is it house of cards? well, no, it's not supposed to me. but is it fun, with some good action? absolutely imo. do i get a kick out of recognizing names and trying to guess who is who? for sure. these aren't intended to be pretentious works of art, they won't win any emmy's. but they don't have to--i think they are fun and i look very forward to watching them every week. i guess it's all about expectations.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I actually don't want that. Constantine works in his own corner of the universe and that's how it should be. Constantine has decent ratings overall, but not for NBC. People actually are trying to save the show and it might be saved by switching the show to another channel.

Supposedly Agents of SHIELD is taking ratings hit and Agent Carter isn't doing all that great (Some say it won't last 3 seasons), yet those are all apart of the MCCU.

Not everything needs to be connected for it to be a success. Gotham for example will survive next season.

And then you have Vertigo shows in the works as well.


NBC is probably the most notorious network for cancelling shows that have cult followings. NBC doesn't understand that Nielsen ratings don't equate to absolute popularity in the age of Hulu, Netflix, DVRs, and torrenting.

@ Leo extreme quality relativism.

The father of stagnation and the mother of garbage-tv.

Meet me for swords at dawn.

Originally posted by krisblaze
@ Leo extreme quality relativism.

The father of stagnation and the mother of garbage-tv.

Meet me for swords at dawn.

😂

i prefer six-shooters at high noon. sneer

only slightly more seriously--which of the comic movies is your fave? do you think it holds up to the all-time great movies OUTSIDE the comic genre?

Marvel is winning the cinema(for now) but for me DC has better tv shows, video games, and various animated stuff that blows Marvel away.

No question Marvel is dominating cinema.

DC had TV on lockdown it seemed but Agents of Sheild/Agent Carter/ now Daredevil seem to closing that gap.

Games from what I hear the Marvel mobile games are doing well but DC gets the nod because of the recent Batman games.

Comics I haven't really been keeping up with that as much as I should.

Still I think Marvel is winning the overall war just because I think they have the more recognized brand right now. I know more people are looking forward to Avengers 2 than they are Batman/Superman.

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

i prefer six-shooters at high noon. sneer

only slightly more seriously--which of the comic movies is your fave? do you think it holds up to the all-time great movies OUTSIDE the comic genre?

I think Cap 2 and Iron Man 1 probably hold up the best outside of the genre now. Fairly streamlined plots, very broad appeal and popular actors.

My favourite comic movies aren't from Marvel or DC, but my favourite from those two are probably

X-Men 1 from Marvel and MoS from DC.

With First class and Batman Begins on close seconds.

Marvel has that "mass appeal" going on for quite some time now, with their movies and merchandise.
They're aiming for the PG guys (parents and children), which understandably generates the biggest sales/profits.

DC always had that 'dark, broody' storylines and plots that cater more to the tweens and single-30-somethings. At least, that's how I see it.
I can't imagine Marvel making a storyline as deep and complex as DC's Watchmen series, or Vertigo's Lucifer/Sandman series.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I think Cap 2 and Iron Man 1 probably hold up the best outside of the genre now. Fairly streamlined plots, very broad appeal and popular actors.

My favourite comic movies aren't from Marvel or DC, but my favourite from those two are probably

X-Men 1 from Marvel and MoS from DC.

With First class and Batman Begins on close seconds.

cap 2 was awesome. avengers is still my fave comic movie though. dark knight was fantastic and i really like mos as well. see, we're not completely different pages. 👆

anyway, i wouldn't say marvel is dominating dc. ahead maybe, but not dominating imo.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Marvel has a ways to go to outdo DC in television. Yes, you have the Defenders on Netflix, but DC/WB has announced a TON of shows. Preacher on AMC (Probably right after Walking Dead), Supergirl, I Zombie, Teen Titans, Lucifer, Arrow, Constantine, Gotham, Flash, etc...

Right now DC has the edge in diversity.

there's gonna be a Lucifer series? WORD!

Originally posted by dynamix
there's gonna be a Lucifer series? WORD!

Don't get your hopes up. Lucifer will be helping police to solve crimes.

I mean what the ****?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
NBC is probably the most notorious network for cancelling shows that have cult followings. NBC doesn't understand that Nielsen ratings don't equate to absolute popularity in the age of Hulu, Netflix, DVRs, and torrenting.
Fox.

Re: Re: Re: Is Marvel dominating DC

Originally posted by SamZED
Dunno about comsmics but when it comes to streets/metas this forum is very Marvel biased. I see that and I'm a marvel fan.

That's because Marvel actually focuses on those characters...

DC is all like: NEW HERALD #5948373 LOOK THIS ONE HAS SUPERMAN'S POWERS TOO.