Legends of Tomorrow

Originally posted by Surtur
True, but on the other hand these people were the reason the Dominators were so pissed off. I wouldn't trust these people either.

I mean who knows the next time Barry will try to f*ck with time? He says he won't but then this is the same person who went back in time to save his mother, decided not to do it...and then he went back and did the same thing a year later and this time he did it.

If I worked for the government I'd be tempted to have him imprisoned so he can never do anymore harm to the timeline. Barry was forgiven awfully quick, but the after effects of his messing with time are kind of horrifying..people flat out got erased from existence.

That's true, but even though Barry was the reason(it would have been the JSA if not him since they had plenty of Meta's at the time), the team didn't know that. They were just randomly attacked by shadowy G-Men who gave them no explanation. Would you just give up and go with them when the world is literally a couple hours away from domination or destruction? F*ck those guys.

Come on man, him saving his mom has context. He didn't save her and was good with her being dead because he had his dad. Then as soon as he makes peace with that after the most grueling battle he's ever had in his life...his dad gets murdered by Zolomon. His dad who did a 15 year prison bid for the guy who murdered his wife/son's mother. It broke him and he panicked and made a rash decision.

Barry has also pretty much cemented at this point he doesn't intend to screw with time again if he can help it. And no one was erased from existence, Barry's interference only either changed things or added new things. No one simply stopped being a thing. Julian for example exists because of Flashpoint. Digg's daughter is a son. Dante got killed(but as Caitlyn pointed out that could've happened anyway in any timeline). And literally everyone has at some point tried to convince Barry to go back and change things on their behalf. Even if they haven't said it, the show makes it obvious they all would if they had the capability.

Digg's daughter is a son. That means the daughter was erased. Instead he has a child. They even say this in the show that the kid was erased.

Barry has said he doesn't intend to screw things up again with time, but the decisions he and his team have made since then don't exactly mesh with that. First of all before when he tried to mess with time he said he never would, but then he did. Then look at the post flashpoint decisions. They quite literally just said "f*ck it, let's get us another Wells!" and went searching for him in other universes. This..makes no sense. Not from any POV. If they try to say they wanted it cuz they'd miss Wells..well, it's not going to be the same person. Is there really no other scientists they could find to work with them? I thought they were joking about doing so but no they actually did it..having no real way to verify who the hell this person truly was.

Not to mention all the times they have opened up dimensional breaches this season, and we're only 9 episodes in lol.

IMO we already might have some evidence he will mess with time again, depending how you define messing with time. Since going back and changing things in the past is one way, but the other way could be going to the future..returning to the present, and telling people about the future. Though the latter example won't create abberations.

I bring this up due to the future scene involving Iris and Savitar Barry saw. She just seemed..far too calm, far too accepting of her fate. To the point where it makes me think that sometime between now and then he is going to tell her about the future.

So wait, before when Thawne wanted to shapeshift he used some kind of technology. But now he can just..speedforce himself a shape change?

Pretty sure it was that thing he used on Stein that allowed him to do it. And, unlike the original Wells, Stein didn't die, which makes me think he just took enough of... whatever it was... for a temporary transformation.

This was a pretty good episode. Black Flash, Black Flash making Eobard piss his pants, and seeing the Legion of Doom punk BF made it even better

Malcolm Merlyn's stock went waaaay up. From laughingstock, to a semblance of the conniving bastard he used to be.

Damien was beating him though, took him down twice, disarmed him, and has his knife to his throat. Was a highlight of the episode seeing him fight and was actually cool that they changed the structure of the episode, and showed some of the group dynamics and how they mistrusted each other. Also seeing the Black Flash was great, I never thought they'd bring him back so soon. Eobard shit himself when he saw him, lol

It was pretty even after Darhk had the initial advantage. Merlyn actually disarmed Darhk first, scored a cut on his arm, and they both had knives at each others' throats at the end, hence why Rip even made the comment about it. Though admittedly, Darhk's initial advantage could have been significant if he had chosen to push it, instead of giving Malcolm time to get his bearings. I enjoyed Black Flash as well. They had him feature just enough to make a real impact, but not too much so that it dominated the episode.

star spangled girl tho...

I was watching flash on the cw website and it autoplayed into Legends and then I seen they had a star spangled girl...

needless to say that plus the fight scenes I saw was better than flash or arrow I will probably be checking it out fr now.

it may be due to the fact that they are trying to push the legends show and it will die down or it hasn't always been good to me but...

star spangled girl tho...

I generally find Legends of Tomorrow more entertaining than either Flash or Arrow nowadays.

Originally posted by carthage
Damien was beating him though, took him down twice, disarmed him, and has his knife to his throat. Was a highlight of the episode seeing him fight and was actually cool that they changed the structure of the episode, and showed some of the group dynamics and how they mistrusted each other. Also seeing the Black Flash was great, I never thought they'd bring him back so soon. Eobard shit himself when he saw him, lol

Damien was supposedly as good as Ra's, and we know how Malcolm stacks up to Ra's.

Yeah, BF and how the Legion dealt with it has probably been the best part of this CW Superhero season so far.

When was it stated that Damien was as good as Ra's? The fact that he made a point of dodging Ra's for over a century suggests otherwise. All we know is that he was also a candidate for the position, but was passed over for the title in favour of the one we see in S3 of Arrow.

Black Flash was great? I liked seeing him, but I felt it utterly LAME how they dealt with him.

I liked it. It would have been better for them to face-off when Zoom was still alive but that would've messed up the timeline, probably.

For a second I thought Ray was gonna start banging Stein's daughter.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
When was it stated that Damien was as good as Ra's? The fact that he made a point of dodging Ra's for over a century suggests otherwise. All we know is that he was also a candidate for the position, but was passed over for the title in favour of the one we see in S3 of Arrow.

More like Ra's failed to catch up to him for over a century, despite having the League at his disposal. Unless Ra's Al Ghul successors are weak feebs, he would have to have been good to be considered for the position in the first place.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
More like Ra's failed to catch up to him for over a century, despite having the League at his disposal. Unless Ra's Al Ghul successors are weak feebs, he would have to have been good to be considered for the position in the first place.

Yes, and Damien had his own resources, such as HIVE. And who said anything about being "weak feebs"? Please don't try and exaggerate things. I never said Darhk isn't good. Being good doesn't mean being equal. And the Ra's Al Ghul selection was long before we saw the current Ra's (or even LoS Damien) in action. Even if they had been equals back when they were both in consideration for the title (and I am not saying they were), there is no guarantee they would be still be over a 100 years later. Ra's remained with the league, kept training, and defeated those who challenged him. Damien seemed to spend a lot of time gathering resources, making deals, and trying to buy and sell nukes to people (as shown on LoT).

Jax - "I don't know how to be a Captain, man!" -Was elite level football QB/Team Captain.

Is High School football that elite though?

I would daresay being the captain of a football isn't the same as what Jax was talking about captaining.

If you f*ck up as a football captain the worst case scenario is your team loses.

Also wait, wasn't he supposed to have injured himself playing football? And yet I don't think that injury has ever been really referenced again since he first appeared. I don't recall any adventures they went on where he was at some kind of disadvantage due to his leg injury. Seems to run around and throw down with the best of them.

Of course I could be just forgetting moments where they did bring it up again.