Out of ALL the DC Heralds, who gives Superman the best fight?

Originally posted by Surtur
Wonder Woman certainly isn't beating Superman. You also say Orion is Superman's equal. Which comic did Nu Orion show high end super speed in?

EDIT: Even worse if this is pre Flashpoint, Orion gets casually blitzed, and Wonder Woman surely isn't taking on Supes either.

Yeah, I agree. If this is pre-DCnU then very few on that list could realistically beat a non-holding back Superman in a majority. CM, BA, and MM would have the best chances, imo. A big 😆 at Wonder Woman beating him. CA wouldn't beat him either.

Doomsday is the only one that can really take a beating from Superman, and fight him evenly (Pre Nu52 that is).

Originally posted by Stoic
Doomsday is the only one that can really take a beating from Superman, and fight him evenly (Pre Nu52 that is).

Assuming that Supes forgets he has super speed like he did in the comic when he fought Doomsday.

DCnU Superman blitzed Orion, and he pretty much laughed it off. Granted it was a pretty brief encounter.

Originally posted by Surtur
Wonder Woman certainly isn't beating Superman. You also say Orion is Superman's equal. Which comic did Nu Orion show high end super speed in?

EDIT: Even worse if this is pre Flashpoint, Orion gets casually blitzed, and Wonder Woman surely isn't taking on Supes either.

You might want to look at their fight before quoting me. Looking at it, imo, Orion was winning.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Flash (Barry and Wally)
Mon-El
Supergirl
Power Girl
Captain Marvel
Black Adam

I always thought it would be Orion or Black Adam. I could never give it to Captain Marvel. He just seems to be Black Adam light.

How many times has Orion Pre DCNU ever been beat by Superman? Wasn't it only once and every other time a draw.

Flash wins 10/10.

At their best, a Flash spites the whole group, Superman included.

I'm not sure if Pre-FP Superman has any clean wins on Orion, he might have some that I'm not aware of, but Orion knocked out Superman once using the Astro Force.

I overlooked Orion somehow. I agree that he'd have just as much if not more of a chance of beating Superman than those other 3 I mentioned. Remember though, that Superman has defeated Darkseid himself (or rather a very powerful avatar if you believe that instead)and I think we can all agree that DS or even one of his more powerful avatars is >>>Orion.

Originally posted by Surtur
Wonder Woman certainly isn't beating Superman. You also say Orion is Superman's equal. Which comic did Nu Orion show high end super speed in?

EDIT: Even worse if this is pre Flashpoint, Orion gets casually blitzed, and Wonder Woman surely isn't taking on Supes either.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
IMO Captain Atom could take a majority, and Orion looked better in the short scuffle him and Supes had, but that was far from definitive.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
DCnU Superman blitzed Orion, and he pretty much laughed it off. Granted it was a pretty brief encounter.

Originally posted by cdtm
Flash wins 10/10.

At their best, a Flash spites the whole group, Superman included.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm not sure if Pre-FP Superman has any clean wins on Orion, he might have some that I'm not aware of, but Orion knocked out Superman once using the Astro Force.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No version of comic flash though. Forum flash might.
It was a surprise attack according to Superman. He also oneshotted Orion in the very next page.

What is your opinion on this thread?

It's a stupid thread.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
It's a great thread. Why didn't I think of it myself?

sneer

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Originally posted by abhilegend
No version of comic flash though. Forum flash might.
It was a surprise attack according to Superman. He also oneshotted Orion in the very next page.

Wally could. Superman was in that group of heroes when Wally was lending speed and blitzing through Anti Monitor's armor, and nobody saw him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Parasite laughed off a blitz from Superman too. Also Orion started the fight with a huge suckerpunch on a hallucinating superman who hit him harder than he has ever been hit.

You can try to explain away all you want, and I'm not going to try and make that fight out to be more than it was, it was definitely very short and anything could have happened in the long run. But, from what was shown Orion clearly looked better, there's no dancing around that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was a surprise attack according to Superman. He also oneshotted Orion in the very next page.

How could you possibly call that a surprise attack? Superman hit Orion first.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
How could you possibly call that a surprise attack? Superman hit Orion first.

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Here are some Orion/Superman fights.

Also, the Jim Starlin one.

Never cared for Orion and i knoe he's bad ass. Just never really liked em