Flash was about to stop Superman speed here but he didn't do it because of civilians and collateral damage.
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Flash was about to stop Superman speed here but he didn't do it because of civilians and collateral damage.
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Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
DCnU Superman blitzed Orion, and he pretty much laughed it off. Granted it was a pretty brief encounter.
So Superman blitzed and hit him thousands upon thousands of times in the blink of an eye, and he laughed it off? OR..did Supes just hit him a bunch of times in rapid succession(but nowhere near thousands)?
Supes rarely uses his speed, and even when he does he rarely uses every ounce of it. Given Orion is not currently dead in comics something tells me he didn't use every ounce of his speed on the guy. Or I could be wrong, he totally could of used a massive speedblitz.
Originally posted by Surtur
So Superman blitzed and hit him thousands upon thousands of times in the blink of an eye, and he laughed it off? OR..did Supes just hit him a bunch of times in rapid succession(but nowhere near thousands)?Supes rarely uses his speed, and even when he does he rarely uses every ounce of it. Given Orion is not currently dead in comics something tells me he didn't use every ounce of his speed on the guy. Or I could be wrong, he totally could of used a massive speedblitz.
Show us a scan of him hitting someone thousands and thousands of times in the blink of an eye. One scan.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Hammond was actually trying to hide away from Orion. Read the comic FFS.
No one is asking who or why he is hiding, I'm asking if he knew about Orion power levels and I didn't take that ad him hiding from Orion, it leaned more on him hiding from the gods. And how would he take possession of Orion anyways when Orion wasn't even there to possess so of course Superman wad the most powerful, during the time Hammond took his body. And that statement was wrong anyways since Wraith was on the planet. Someone who Superman himself admitted was more powerful than him.
Originally posted by cdtmOK, so? He was still way slower than Superman from current levels.
1.Byrne Superman wasn't all that slow. Hal froze time froze Earth, and Superman as Clark Kent was still moving around.
2. This writer isn't Byrne. Different writers write difterently, duh. When Johns writes Sinesto in a flashback before coie, he doesn't write him as the clown of the era Ollie koed, he writes him as the baddass he established.Right. Now Mark Waid doesn't writes characters as per the continuity. I'm sorry, but have you actually read that comic run by Waid?
Wally has the showings, as does Barry. Fights are less important then feats,, as they're often political. Many writers such as Starlin have said how DC orders them to treat their flagship character with respect.I'm sorry again, but you know DC can treat them in whatever way they want? You are essentially saying that you know better than the actual writers of the characters even tho they are the same writers who wrote those feats? Well good luck on CBR with that logic.
Right. Two or three times per every five years is a in character tactic. Just like Thor godblasting everybody at the start of the fight. Mind you, he has actually done it more times than Flash stealing speed to win a fight.
Speed manipulation is a completely valid, in character tactic for any Flash. Wally's done in to win fights, Jay's done it against Superman. And while time dumps.aren't in character, speed force dumps are.
Wally was dying in that moment and Jay couldn't fully steal his speed anyway. So?
Originally posted by carver9
No one is asking who or why he is hiding, I'm asking if he knew about Orion power levels and I didn't take that ad him hiding from Orion, it leaned more on him hiding from the gods. And how would he take possession of Orion anyways when Orion wasn't even there to possess so of course Superman wad the most powerful, during the time Hammond took his body. And that statement was wrong anyways since Wraith was on the planet. Someone who Superman himself admitted was more powerful than him.
Eh? Wraith wasn't even created by Snyder at that point. Seriously STFU.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Do me a favor, shut up and read the comic. Orion was on the planet since WW 14 as explained in the previous comic and Hammond knew exactly how powerful he was and hid away in the mind of Superman, the guy he found to be more powerful than him.Eh? Wraith wasn't even created by Snyder at that point. Seriously STFU.
I read the comic. Again, Hammond was not referring to Orion during that speech.
Lol... are you going to sit here and tell me Wraith wasn't on Earth when Hammond said that? Even though Wraith told us how long he was on the planet. WTF ABHI.
Originally posted by carver9
I read the comic. Again, Hammond was not referring to Orion during that speech.Lol... are you going to sit here and tell me Wraith wasn't on Earth when Hammond said that? Even though Wraith told us how long he was on the planet. WTF ABHI.
Yeah, like your word is law. Shut up if you can't accept defeat.
Yeah, Lobdell didn't mention a character that wasn't created yet and had no information about the character . Are you really this ****ing inane?
Re: Out of ALL the DC Heralds, who gives Superman the best fight?
Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Flash (Barry and Wally)
Mon-El
Supergirl
Power Girl
Captain Marvel
Black Adam
WW gives the best fight because of her speed, skill, sword, and lasso combination. Unless Superman employs freeze breath to make the fight easier.
Flash stomps Superman.
the rest put up decent fights but falls short due to Supermans speed, power, and experience.
Originally posted by abhilegend
OK, so? He was still way slower than Superman from current levels.Right. Now Mark Waid doesn't writes characters as per the continuity. I'm sorry, but have you actually read that comic run by Waid?
I'm sorry again, but you know DC can treat them in whatever way they want? You are essentially saying that you know better than the actual writers of the characters even tho they are the same writers who wrote those feats? Well good luck on CBR with that logic.
Right. Two or three times per every five years is a in character tactic. Just like Thor godblasting everybody at the start of the fight. Mind you, he has actually done it more times than Flash stealing speed to win a fight.
And you can count tue number of times Superman's speed blitzed someone in his 60-70 year career on one hand.
But so what? Most of your post amounts to pis/svsfl and maximum capacity rules shouldn't apply. Except here on KMC, they do.
If you don't like standard comic board rules, you can always start your own forum with no pis, SpidermanVsfirelord, full capacity, or any other rules you don't like.
As it is here, Martian Manhunter destroys Superman 10/10. 😮💨😈
Originally posted by cdtmNot really. He does it more than any character not named Flash.
And you can count tue number of times Superman's speed blitzed someone in his 60-70 year career on one hand.
This isn't CBR. Characters fight to their best, but in character.But so what? Most of your post amounts to pis/svsfl and maximum capacity rules shouldn't apply. Except here on KMC, they do.
Nah, I like it much better here. You can always go back to cbr though.If you don't like standard comic board rules, you can always start your own forum with no pis, SpidermanVsfirelord, full capacity, or any other rules you don't like.
Just like he recently destroyed Superboy's fist with his face, right?As it is here, Martian Manhunter destroys Superman 10/10. 😮💨😈
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. He does it more than any character not named Flash. This isn't CBR. Characters fight to their best, but in character. Nah, I like it much better here. You can always go back to cbr though. Just like he recently destroyed Superboy's fist with his face, right?
Well, the way the rules put it, Flash KO's the rogues at a sprint. By your logic, this is ooc because he NEVER does this in a comic.
