Originally posted by Insane TitanSurfer operated in battle at light speed before, so had Gladiator. This is a forum fight, which is different than a comic one. In a forum Surfer has defenses to anything Thanos can throw at him. Surfer must forget his powers in order for Thanos to have a chance.
do you always troll?Surfer never has or been able to stalemate Thanos nor can Gladiator hit a opponent as hard as Thanos.
And neither character fights at light speed.
Originally posted by h1a8In some posts you say we can't ignore comics then you do just the same. Comics>>>your crazy theories.
Surfer operated in battle at light speed before, so had Gladiator. This is a forum fight, which is different than a comic one. In a forum Surfer has defenses to anything Thanos can throw at him. Surfer must forget his powers in order for Thanos to have a chance.
Thanos owns the Surfer.
Originally posted by h1a8name such instances , same with Gladiator. Don't try passing off rare few instances as the norm. Forum fights are still governed by showings from comics. surfer has no defences to taking a punch from Thanos. Lol forget his powers , Surfer can't really harm Thanos.
Surfer operated in battle at light speed before, so had Gladiator. This is a forum fight, which is different than a comic one. In a forum Surfer has defenses to anything Thanos can throw at him. Surfer must forget his powers in order for Thanos to have a chance.
Originally posted by Insane Titanagainst deathurge, BRB. Gladiator against Hyperion. Surfer can use speed and reflexes to avoid getting punched by Thanos. If he can't then both Superman and Gladiator stomps him as they are faster than Thanos. Surfer has shields, can phase, etc. Surfer can harm Thanos. He can hit him from behind with the board, black hole blast him, etc. That's not even considering unleashing planet destroying blasts.
name such instances , same with Gladiator. Don't try passing off rare few instances as the norm. Forum fights are still governed by showings from comics. surfer has no defences to taking a punch from Thanos. Lol forget his powers , Surfer can't really harm Thanos.
Bottom line : people are using a double standard with both Surfer (and sometimes Thor). When fighting DC characters suddenly Surfer can do all these amazing things, but when he fights Thanos then he becomes dumb and loses some of his abilities. Be consistent for every fight. If Surfer can keep up with Superman and Gladiator and defend well against them then he can against Thanos as well.
Originally posted by h1a8so you're proof is 4 fights in his whole history of using speed a he still got hit in them.
against deathurge, BRB. Gladiator against Hyperion. Surfer can use speed and reflexes to avoid getting punched by Thanos. If he can't then both Superman and Gladiator stomps him as they are faster than Thanos. Surfer has shields, can phase, etc. Surfer can harm Thanos. He can hit him from behind with the board, black hole blast him, etc. That's not even considering unleashing planet destroying blasts.Bottom line : people are using a double standard with both Surfer (and sometimes Thor). When fighting DC characters suddenly Surfer can do all these amazing things, but when he fights Thanos then he becomes dumb and loses some of his abilities. Be consistent for every fight. If Surfer can keep up with Superman and Gladiator and defend well against them then he can against Thanos as well.
His shields aren't strong enough to stop Thanos, phasing does nothing to help him in battle to win. Lol board to the back of the head didn't even put down BRB. surfer has never produced a black hole like the one Thnos encountered , so again moot point.
No the thing is you use a version of Surfer, Gladiator and Superman that doesn't exist.
Originally posted by Insane TitanI'm just saying that they are capable of it since they done it before. Especially when fighting to the best of their ability. Surfer can block Thanos blasts with his shields. Yes Thanos can break them with punches but at least they would protect Surfer from his attacks. Surfer can simply put a black hole in his eyes or brain. Thanos was messed up against that black hole and he never touched the singularity. All black holes pull with the same infinite force AT THE SINGULARITY. Thanos will simply be dead. Surfer didn't want to kill BRB. He could have easily hit BRB with the board traveling a million c.
so you're proof is 4 fights in his whole history of using speed a he still got hit in them.His shields aren't strong enough to stop Thanos, phasing does nothing to help him in battle to win. Lol board to the back of the head didn't even put down BRB. surfer has never produced a black hole like the one Thnos encountered , so again moot point.
No the thing is you use a version of Surfer, Gladiator and Superman that doesn't exist.
You must be new here cause Surfer fans make Surfer do shit against DC characters that they wouldn't have him do against Thanos. Same goes for Thor. At least I'm consistent and don't use double standards.
Originally posted by h1a8Not to the extent you exaggerate. More made up crap , Surfer doesn't put black holes in people. Thanos wasn't messed up at all , he survived the black hole closing on him (proven and shown on panel. Stop using real world science as it doesn't apply here, plus Surfer hasn't produced a black hole with the same scope Thanos survived. He tried to put BRB down fact, he never attacks at that speed ever.
I'm just saying that they are capable of it since they done it before. Especially when fighting to the best of their ability. Surfer can block Thanos blasts with his shields. Yes Thanos can break them with punches but at least they would protect Surfer from his attacks. Surfer can simply put a black hole in his eyes or brain. Thanos was messed up against that black hole and he never touched the singularity. All black holes pull with the same infinite force AT THE SINGULARITY. Thanos will simply be dead. Surfer didn't want to kill BRB. He could have easily hit BRB with the board traveling a million c.You must be new here cause Surfer fans make Surfer do shit against DC characters that they wouldn't have him do against Thanos. Same goes for Thor. At least I'm consistent and don't use double standards.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Not to the extent you exaggerate. More made up crap , Surfer doesn't put black holes in people. Thanos wasn't messed up at all , he survived the black hole closing on him (proven and shown on panel. Stop using real world science as it doesn't apply here, plus Surfer hasn't produced a black hole with the same scope Thanos survived. He tried to put BRB down fact, he never attacks at that speed ever.
Surfer is a blaster. That's the speed he attacks with (unless we are counting the board attack). I'm referring to the speed Surfer can manuever in battle with (evasiveness). As far as black holes, Surfer stated that he can do such things but refuses to. So it's not in his character to put black holes in people, but he could. He actually put a black hole in a being before though.
Black holes don't close and still remain black holes. A black hole closing makes no sense and has no meaning whatsoever. Black holes are singularities with event horizons. Thanos ship tried to escape and it got torn up with Thanos in it. Black holes pull with greater force the closer you are to them. The pulling force becomes infinite at the singularity. If that isn't true in Thanos case then we have to dismiss the artificial black hole as not being a real one.
Originally posted by h1a8yet he still gets tagged all the time disproving your theory.
Surfer is a blaster. That's the speed he attacks with (unless we are counting the board attack). I'm referring to the speed Surfer can manuever in battle with (evasiveness). As far as black holes, Surfer stated that he can do such things but refuses to. So it's not in his character to put black holes in people, but he could. He actually put a black hole in a being before though.
Black holes don't close and still remain black holes. A black hole closing makes no sense and has no meaning whatsoever. Black holes are singularities with event horizons. Thanos ship tried to escape and it got torn up with Thanos in it. Black holes pull with greater force the closer you are to them. The pulling force becomes infinite at the singularity. If that isn't true in Thanos case then we have to dismiss the artificial black hole as not being a real one.
So he doesn't do black holes in people fact. It was shown Thanos wasn't amongst the debris and it's clear the writer wanted shown Thanos was inside when it closed hence the dialogue and pictures. All the rest of your post is RL nonsense that doesn't apply here.
Originally posted by Insane TitanSurfer Getting tagged with attacks far under his reflex speed is simply him not fighting at full capacity (as forum rules state). Just because someone is more powerful doesn't mean their chances of landing an attack is greater.
yet he still gets tagged all the time disproving your theory.So he doesn't do black holes in people fact. It was shown Thanos wasn't amongst the debris and it's clear the writer wanted shown Thanos was inside when it closed hence the dialogue and pictures. All the rest of your post is RL nonsense that doesn't apply here.
All black holes pull with infinite force at the singularity. This is a fact. Otherwise you have to accept that artificial comic black holes aren't the same as real ones And comic bullets aren't the same as real ones. And that would be asinine.
Surfer did put a black hole inside a being before (killing them). I think he did that twice in his career if I'm not mistaken.
Originally posted by h1a8full capacity is within the boundaries of how they regularly act/fight. Go re read the rules.
Surfer Getting tagged with attacks far under his reflex speed is simply him not fighting at full capacity (as forum rules state). Just because someone is more powerful doesn't mean their chances of landing an attack is greater.All black holes pull with infinite force at the singularity. This is a fact. Otherwise you have to accept that artificial comic black holes aren't the same as real ones And comic bullets aren't the same as real ones. And that would be asinine.
Surfer did put a black hole inside a being before (killing them). I think he did that twice in his career if I'm not mistaken.
Youre comparing a black hole to a bullet lol, you can choose to ignore what was actually shown and stated on panel all you want, it's fact plain and simple. You ignoring it furthers the point you're a troll.
So you're not sure and just guessing, and these people where as powerful as Thanos?
Originally posted by Insane TitanThey fight how they fight in comics when they are using full capacity. You act like characters choose to suddenly have their powers removed. Surfer will retain his reflexes because it's a part of his power set. He cant turn his reflexes off for the sake of the plot in a forum fight. Neither would he choose to if he could. Surfer gets hit by slower things when the plot cause for it. Surfer avoids ultra fast shit when the plot cause for it too.
full capacity is within the boundaries of how they regularly act/fight. Go re read the rules.Youre comparing a black hole to a bullet lol, you can choose to ignore what was actually shown and stated on panel all you want, it's fact plain and simple. You ignoring it furthers the point you're a troll.
So you're not sure and just guessing, and these people where as powerful as Thanos?