Gladiator vs Silver Surfer

Started by Nibedicus6 pages

Didn't Loki treat Masterson Thor like a noob?

Thor > BRB >Gladiator >= Masterson Thor IMO.

Also, like One-Punch said, Krosakis...

Yeah, Loki straight just beat the shit out of Masterson like he was some old lady 😬

Disagree on Bill being more powerful than Glad. Hell, it was recently said by Thanos himself that Gladiator is more formidable than Bill.

Gladiator is BY FAR the most dangerous of this lot...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19647451/2.jpg.html

Can't get any clearer.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Didn't Loki treat Masterson Thor like a noob?

Thor > BRB >Gladiator >= Masterson Thor IMO.

Also, like One-Punch said, Krosakis...

Did you see the Krosakis fight? Let's put it like this, Surfer didn't beat him in a fist cuff match.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator is BY FAR the most dangerous of this lot...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19647451/2.jpg.html

Can't get any clearer.

Character statements aren't "feats.

Both characters have "feats" enough that we can do a side by side.

Also, title and issue number pls as the scan you posted lacks the page where BRB attacks Thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you see the Krosakis fight? Let's put it like this, Surfer didn't beat him in a fist cuff match.

Yes, I have the Uni-power compilation book. It'sa little presumptuos of you to assume ppl didn't read the issue, don't you think?

He was going toe-to-toe with a creature amped by Gladiator's power plus the Uni Power plus whoever else he had imprisoned.

And then Surfer used his power to overload said creature who was easily snacking on Gladiator's power. Proving (by "feats"😉 that Surfer had much more power than Glads had to offer.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Character statements aren't "feats.

Both characters have "feats" enough that we can do a side by side.

Also, title and issue number pls as the scan you posted lacks the page where BRB attacks Thanos.

Yes, I have the Uni-power compilation book. It'sa little presumptuos of you to assume ppl didn't read the issue, don't you think?

He was going toe-to-toe with a creature amped by Gladiator's power plus the Uni Power plus whoever else he had imprisoned.

And then Surfer used his power to overload said creature who was easily snacking on Gladiator's power. Proving (by "feats"😉 that Surfer had much more power than Glads had to offer.

It's in Thanos: Infinity Revelation I believe.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Character statements aren't "feats.

Both characters have "feats" enough that we can do a side by side.

Also, title and issue number pls as the scan you posted lacks the page where BRB attacks Thanos.

Yes, I have the Uni-power compilation book. It'sa little presumptuos of you to assume ppl didn't read the issue, don't you think?

He was going toe-to-toe with a creature amped by Gladiator's power plus the Uni Power plus whoever else he had imprisoned.

And then Surfer used his power to overload said creature who was easily snacking on Gladiator's power. Proving (by "feats"😉 that Surfer had much more power than Glads had to offer.

Thanos knows of both Gladiator and Bill. Both of their raw power. That was a comparison of power and Bill fell short. We don't ignore things like that just to help our argument. One Angry helped with the source and Bill got destroyed by Thanos.

Did you read the beginning of the fight between Surfer and K? If so, Surfer outright tells him that his body can't handle the power he was carrying around. Of course Surfer adding additional power would overload him. He was near that level already.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos knows of both Gladiator and Bill. Both of their raw power. That was a comparison of power and Bill fell short. We don't ignore things like that just to help our argument. One Angry helped with the source and Bill got destroyed by Thanos.

Did you read the beginning of the fight between Surfer and K? If so, Surfer outright tells him that his body can't handle the power he was carrying around. Of course Surfer adding additional power would overload him. He was near that level already.

What is this adherence of yours to character statements??

BRB did far more to Thaos than anyone did in this story. Thanos THOUGHT Glad was "more dangerous" only to be proven wrong when BRB bashed him out of his throne and actually got him to fall on his knees. While Glad did all of nothing the whole fight. Zero. Zilch.

The same way Surfer THOUGHT that Krosakis may well be playing with fire absorbing BOTH the Uni-Power and Gladiator's power only to be proven wrong when Krosakis was easily handling said power and blasting him with it. Krosakis' own statements disagree with the Surfer's thoughts as well.

The same Uni-Power BTW that was allowing Sue Storm to school him around.

You have two characters who made statements only to be proven wrong on the very page or the page after they made said statements, yet you chose to adhere to those very statements. It's very telling.

The funny thing is, in BOTH fights Gladiator did nothing. Zero. Zilch. He git himself BFR'd or tractor beamed. Some "dangerous" opponent he turned out to be....

As Thanos statement says about the Annihilators , he isn't including Surfer in who the most powerful etc.

Wait a minute...did you just use Bill breaking Thanos chair as evidence of him doing something to Thanos? WTF. By the way, Gladiator didn't get a chance to fight because Thanos ported him away. Thanos gave us a power comparison between the two. Two beings he is well aware of. If he thought of Bill as more of a threat, he would've ported him as well but as shown, Bill was nothing to him.

Lol...so you are using fights as an indication of power? Ok, we can do that.

The ending of Bill vs Kid Nova.

Lol...Gladiator 1 pieced a Nova Prime.

Continued.

Surfer did well against K but he onky beat him due to overloading him. He did not overpower him, at all.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute...did you just use Bill breaking Thanos chair as evidence of him doing something to Thanos? WTF. By the way, Gladiator didn't get a chance to fight because Thanos ported him away. Thanos gave us a power comparison between the two. Two beings he is well aware of. If he thought of Bill as more of a threat, he would've ported him as well but as shown, Bill was nothing to him.

Lol...so you are using fights as an indication of power? Ok, we can do that.

The ending of Bill vs Kid Nova.

Lol...Gladiator 1 pieced a Nova Prime.

Continued.

BRB did more to Thanos than Glads ever did. The fact that Thanos didn't really expect to get his throne bashed in shows that he didn't really rank their strengths correctly.

You're going to have to ask yourself the question: who is more dangerous? The guy who at least managed to score an effective hit or the guy that got one panelled away?

What exactly does the BRB/Kid Nova fight prove? He sucker shotted an unaware/unagressive BRB and didn't really inflict any damage. And BRB/Thor aren't even known for their durability but for their damage soak.

Nice, using the fight with a noob Nova Prime where most of the power was still with Ego-Corrupted Wordlmind.

Lowballing is silly as it can be done both ways. Like bringing in that Glads got hurt by Wolverine or Gambit.

Character statement is garbage unless you have actual "feats" to back it up. Powerscaling is an undependable medium prone to errors and biased interpretations. You want a fair and solid comparison, bring in his best fights and use the "feats" shown there...

With that , I submit BRB vs Stardust in Godhunter.

What fight do you want to bring in?

Best to reply on the Brb vs Gladiator thread before we get warned for derailing.

I bumped it for your convenience.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Remind me of these awesome strength feats from Gladiator that will prove too taxing for Surfer's durability 😆

Who said anything about too taxing? You're acting like he can't even hurt surfer with his punches.

And ABC comparison between characters like that is seldom accurate. For example Ronan Blasted a skrull surfer clone apart just minutes after the said skrull beat the shit out of surfer.

You don't see Ronan fans running around saying that he beats surfer, do you?

Ronan fans all committed group-suicide in the 80s, so you don't see any of them running around.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And ABC comparison between characters like that is seldom accurate. For example Ronan Blasted a skrull surfer clone apart just minutes after the said skrull beat the shit out of surfer.

You don't see Ronan fans running around saying that he beats surfer, do you?

Ronan in those days was actually pretty badass. Bona fide threat to Surfer in those days IMO.

Makes me sad that he's now such a pale imitation of who he once was.

Funny thing is, surfer casually beat him two issues later. Under the same writer.

Now what?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Funny thing is, surfer casually beat him two issues later. Under the same writer.

Now what?

I remember the Skrull incident. Can't remember the two issues later beating. Post it?