Originally posted by abhilegendDidn't Ronan still have his original hammer back then?
And ABC comparison between characters like that is seldom accurate. For example Ronan Blasted a skrull surfer clone apart just minutes after the said skrull beat the shit out of surfer.You don't see Ronan fans running around saying that he beats surfer, do you?
There's a scene I remember a little while ago when I was debating Juntai when Ronan explains his original hammer was way better.
Originally posted by abhilegendProbably.
He did? I can't remember actually.
Anyway, Ronan specifically amped himself to cover his weaknesses and Surfer's power when he came back. Considering he just got beaten by Surfer somewhat easily, it speaks to the type of amp he gave himself.
Plus, even his fake hammer is above Gladiator power as we were witness to head smooshing goodness. Guy's a beast. He's just heavily reliant on his hammer and armor.
Ronan would benefit a lot from invisibility. Out of nowhere cheapshots.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Probably.Anyway, Ronan specifically amped himself to cover his weaknesses and Surfer's power when he came back. Considering he just got beaten by Surfer somewhat easily, it speaks to the type of amp he gave himself.
Plus, even his fake hammer is above Gladiator power as we were witness to head smooshing goodness. Guy's a beast. He's just heavily reliant on his hammer and armor.
Ronan would benefit a lot from invisibility. Out of nowhere cheapshots.
you have to remember Thanos teleported glads 200 light years away,Beta ray bill got o
Originally posted by Nibedicus
What is this adherence of yours to character statements??BRB did far more to Thaos than anyone did in this story. Thanos THOUGHT Glad was "more dangerous" only to be proven wrong when BRB bashed him out of his throne and actually got him to fall on his knees. While Glad did all of nothing the whole fight. Zero. Zilch.
The same way Surfer THOUGHT that Krosakis may well be playing with fire absorbing BOTH the Uni-Power and Gladiator's power only to be proven wrong when Krosakis was easily handling said power and blasting him with it. Krosakis' own statements disagree with the Surfer's thoughts as well.
The same Uni-Power BTW that was allowing Sue Storm to school him around.
You have two characters who made statements only to be proven wrong on the very page or the page after they made said statements, yet you chose to adhere to those very statements. It's very telling.
The funny thing is, in BOTH fights Gladiator did nothing. Zero. Zilch. He git himself BFR'd or tractor beamed. Some "dangerous" opponent he turned out to be....
Originally posted by Insane Titanagainst deathurge, BRB. Gladiator against Hyperion. Surfer can use speed and reflexes to avoid getting punched by Thanos. If he can't then both Superman and Gladiator stomps him as they are faster than Thanos. Surfer has shields, can phase, etc. Surfer can harm Thanos. He can hit him from behind with the board, black hole blast him, etc. That's not even considering unleashing planet destroying blasts.
name such instances , same with Gladiator. Don't try passing off rare few instances as the norm. Forum fights are still governed by showings from comics. surfer has no defences to taking a punch from Thanos. Lol forget his powers , Surfer can't really harm Thanos.
Bottom line : people are using a double standard with both Surfer (and sometimes Thor). When fighting DC characters suddenly Surfer can do all these amazing things, but when he fights Thanos then suddenly he becomes dumb and also loses some of his abilities. Be consistent for every fight. If Surfer can keep up with Superman and Gladiator and defend well against them then he can against Thanos as well.
Originally posted by h1a8so a few instances 😂
against deathurge, BRB. Gladiator against Hyperion. Surfer can use speed and reflexes to avoid getting punched by Thanos. If he can't then both Superman and Gladiator stomps him as they are faster than Thanos. Surfer has shields, can phase, etc. Surfer can harm Thanos. He can hit him from behind with the board, black hole blast him, etc. That's not even considering unleashing planet destroying blasts.Bottom line : people are using a double standard with both Surfer (and sometimes Thor). When fighting DC characters suddenly Surfer can do all these amazing things, but when he fights Thanos then suddenly he becomes dumb and also loses some of his abilities. Be consistent for every fight. If Surfer can keep up with Superman and Gladiator and defend well against them then he can against Thanos as well.
Surfer can't harm Thanos as shown on panel. Board to back couldn't even put down BRB. Surfer hadn't black hole blasted anyone with the size of the black hole Thanos tanked. Seeing as Thanos tanks planet destroying blasts Surfer is screwed.
You need to deal in facts and face them , Thanos stomps Surfer.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
so a few instances 😂Surfer can't harm Thanos as shown on panel. Board to back couldn't even put down BRB. Surfer hadn't black hole blasted anyone with the size of the black hole Thanos tanked. Seeing as Thanos tanks planet destroying blasts Surfer is screwed.
You need to deal in facts and face them , Thanos stomps Surfer.
Originally posted by h1a8it never hurt him badly , stop lying and you have NO PROOF it would kill Thanos.
1. Board from behind hurt BRB badly. Also Surfer wasn't trying to kill him.
2. Black holes have no size. They are singularities and have infinite pulling force on the singularity.
3. Thanos never tanked a planet destroying blasts. Surviving planet destruction is miniscule to surviving a blast that can shatter a planet to many pieces.
This is comics not real world , get to grips with it.
Surfer blasted Thanos with everything he had, no effect. Thanos laughs at surfers best
Originally posted by Insane Titan
it never hurt him badly , stop lying and you have NO PROOF it would kill Thanos.This is comics not real world , get to grips with it.
Surfer blasted Thanos with everything he had, no effect. Thanos laughs at surfers best
I guess you have a different of opinion of being hurt badly. It hurt him good enough for Surfer to oneshot him with a punch, unless you think Surfer can go around oneshotting high heralds with a single punch. Thanos couldn't even do that.
If we don't treat black holes in comics like real black holes then what is the feat actually then? Are we not suppose to assume comic bullets act as real bullets? So bullet feats in comics don't count since real bullets>>>>>>comic bullets?
1. That was a much weaker Surfer than annihilation one.
2. Characters power levels fluctuate from comic to comic. Odin and Seth (after many blasts) is shown damaging a galaxy but in other instances Odin's blasts aren't shown to be even 1 billionth of that power level. In other words, Surfer wasn't even hitting Thanos with city leveling power.
Originally posted by h1a8
I guess you have a different of opinion of being hurt badly. It hurt him good enough for Surfer to oneshot him with a punch, unless you think Surfer can go around oneshotting high heralds with a single punch. Thanos couldn't even do that.If we don't treat black holes in comics like real black holes then what is the feat actually then? Are we not suppose to assume comic bullets act as real bullets? So bullet feats in comics don't count since real bullets>>>>>>comic bullets?
1. That was a much weaker Surfer than annihilation one.
2. Characters power levels fluctuate from comic to comic. Odin and Seth (after many blasts) is shown damaging a galaxy but in other instances Odin's blasts aren't shown to be even 1 billionth of that power level. In other words, Surfer wasn't even hitting Thanos with city leveling power.
Bill was still able to fight him, stop lying.
We know writers have a general idea of how bullets effect work and speed the travel, how a artificial black hole works is guess work.
1. No it wasn't Surfer received no upgrade in Annihilation and what Galactus said/did has never been referred to since. Plus Surfer give Thanos a full power blast in infinity revelations which Thanos laughed off.
2. So you're saying Surfer lied! Let's see you prove that bullshit or will it be ANOTHER excuse?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Bill was still able to fight him, stop lying.We know writers have a general idea of how bullets effect work and speed the travel, how a artificial black hole works is guess work.
1. No it wasn't Surfer received no upgrade in Annihilation and what Galactus said/did has never been referred to since. Plus Surfer give Thanos a full power blast in infinity revelations which Thanos laughed off.
2. So you're saying Surfer lied! Let's see you prove that bullshit or will it be ANOTHER excuse?
Bill was out of the fight after than one hit. That's more than Thanos did in one hit.
Surfer went from simple blasts to destroying planets? That's an upgrade to me. Even if it isn't, then Surfer still didn't blast Thanos with a minute amount of what he did in annihilation.
Well I know how real black holes work (basic knowledge of them) and Thanos isn't surviving one if he touches the singularity.
Originally posted by h1a8you do understand Thanos was toying with Bill?
Bill was out of the fight after than one hit. That's more than Thanos did in one hit.Surfer went from simple blasts to destroying planets? That's an upgrade to me. Even if it isn't, then Surfer still didn't blast Thanos with a minute amount of what he did in annihilation.
Well I know how real black holes work (basic knowledge of them) and Thanos isn't surviving one if he touches the singularity.
Surfers own words prove you wrong , which you can't disprove.
He touched the singularity as shown on panel, I guess you will just troll your way through this again.