SSJ Gogeta vs. Base Vegito

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You guys are clearly retarded.

Since you think that people just bleed for no reason, it's clear that I have won this little shit-fest against you idiotic trolls.

And TI, stop acting like I'M delusional, when the only people on your side are riding the short bus with you.

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But yeah, I've clearly made my point, and you guys have been too stupid to post anything against it for MONTHS, so I hereby take my title, and leave. 👆

IOW: "No one agree's with you" however "you are right"

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Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you do have two accts. Why though?

The whole point that is being made from what i read is the amount of damage vegeta did to bills is so insignificant. that it doesnt prove that vegeto would win

especially if goku himself says fusion wouldnt work and goku has never been wrong about the outcome of a fight

Lol...come on. It's obvious you two are one of the same. No denying this.

Originally posted by chasedown
hed have to be 1000 times stronger just to do 5% damage lol but ok

That's your baseless speculation on the percent Vegeta did. Your stance is bad and you should feel bad

Originally posted by Based
Gogeta felt that he needed SSJ to beat Janeba. Vegito's anime base still wrecked the shit out of Gohan Boo.

He was automatically SSJ1 when he turned. Nothing shows he "felt he needed it" as much as it's just what happened.

Originally posted by juggerman
He was automatically SSJ1 when he turned. Nothing shows he "felt he needed it" as much as it's just what happened.

Precisely.

Super Janemba got stomped so quickly... it's not inconceivable that Base Gogeta could've beat him.

Gogeta wins here without any trouble.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Gogeta wins here without any trouble.

You have to prove it though.
The only way you can say this is by speculating about how forgetful about his own work AT is, or by taking into account Movie Gogeta, when movies are completely different timelines compared to the manga continuity.
Otherwise, going by the manga, Vegetto stomps, proofs are plenty.

Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
You have to prove it though.
The only way you can say this is by speculating about how forgetful about his own work AT is, or by taking into account Movie Gogeta, when movies are completely different timelines compared to the manga continuity.
Otherwise, going by the manga, Vegetto stomps, proofs are plenty.

His one attack would be enough to roflstomp Vegetate. He was clearly on another level.

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What took you guys so long?

Anyway, as I've proven time and time again, TI, you are simply incorrect. And everyone agree's with me, except you and your group of bridge-trolls. 👆

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, everyone here's got pretty much the right idea.

Going by the manga, Vegetto still pulls a win, pretty handily.

Going by the anime/movie's, Gogeta shit-stomps here.

But if AT ever really made this, they'd probably be equal, meaning SSJ Gogeta would stomp on Base Vegetto, but be stalemated by SSJ Vegetto.

You said here he wins.

Flip flop

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You said here he wins.

Flip flop

Yes. I SAID VEGETTO WINS. Because he would, in cannon. In the anime, the only reason Gogeta would win is because of dubbing errors. 👆

Vegetto wins SOLIDLY in base, because not ONLY were the potara "vastly superior to that silly dance", as per ELDER KAI'S OWN WORDS, but Vegetto ALSO got ANOTHER boost, from Goku and Vegeta being rivals. To the point where SSJ1 Vegetto COULD HAVE KILLED BUUHAN WITH A KIAI. Which is JUST A WAVE. Literally. 👆

SSJ3 Goku TEAMED UP with SSJ2 Gohan, WOULD HAVE HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST REGULAR SUPER BUU. This was stated BY GOKU HIMSELF. SSJ3 Goku fought on par with Super Janemba. Super Gogeta beat Super Janemba pretty handily, but didn't take him out with ANYTHING LESS than his strongest attack. Meaning that Super Gogeta wasn't MUCH stronger than SSJ3 Goku, even though he definitely was stronger. SSJ1 Vegetto was strong enough to kill an enemy that was FOUR SSJ'S ABOVE someone that SSJ3 Goku AND SSJ2 Vegeta teamed up, would have had no chance against... WITH A WAVE. SSJ1 Vegetto >>>>> Buuhan >>> Buutenks >>> Buucolo >> Super Buu >> SSJ3 Goku/SSJ2 Vegeta teamed up >>> SSJ3 Goku.

Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku.

Do you not understand this? Vegetto in BASE FORM would have EATEN Super Janemba. Probably as badly as Super Vegetto would have stomped Buuhan. Meaning that BASE Vegetto would have DEFINITELY been able to put Super Gogeta down, especially considering that base Vegetto is permanent, and Super Gogeta stays fused for less than 30 minutes. 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Who takes this?

Originally posted by juggerman
Gogeta

Originally posted by bbrem123
Gogeta

Originally posted by Q99
The form matters more than the type of the fusion. Gogeta should win quite solidly.

That gap can be chalked up to the adults being sooo much stronger than the kids. The gap between Gotenks and Vegetto isn't much different than I'd think the gap between Goten/Trunks and Goku/Vegeta would be, i.e. totally overwhelming, so I don't chalk that yp to be a difference in fusion type.

Everyone here said Gogeta win.

Forum Gogeta loses.

Simple as that.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Everyone here said Gogeta win.

Forum Gogeta loses.

Simple as that.

See above. 👆

Janemba rivaled Buu's power.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
His one attack would be enough to roflstomp Vegetate. He was clearly on another level.

This is not a proof, it's just your opinion.
Since Vegetto humiliated Boohan, I could say he would beat to a pulp ssj Gogeta as well, since he "was clearly on another level".
Again, show me how and why manga Gogeta would lay a single hit on Vegetto, I want actual proofs. book
Until then, since the manga speaks clearly on the matter, Vegetto takes this.

Because Janemaba rivaled Buu's power.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yes. [B]I SAID VEGETTO WINS. Because he would, in cannon. In the anime, the only reason Gogeta would win is because of dubbing errors. 👆

Vegetto wins SOLIDLY in base, because not ONLY were the potara "vastly superior to that silly dance", as per ELDER KAI'S OWN WORDS, but Vegetto ALSO got ANOTHER boost, from Goku and Vegeta being rivals. To the point where SSJ1 Vegetto COULD HAVE KILLED BUUHAN WITH A KIAI. Which is JUST A WAVE. Literally. 👆

SSJ3 Goku TEAMED UP with SSJ2 Gohan, WOULD HAVE HAD NO CHANCE AGAINST REGULAR SUPER BUU. This was stated BY GOKU HIMSELF. SSJ3 Goku fought on par with Super Janemba. Super Gogeta beat Super Janemba pretty handily, but didn't take him out with ANYTHING LESS than his strongest attack. Meaning that Super Gogeta wasn't MUCH stronger than SSJ3 Goku, even though he definitely was stronger. SSJ1 Vegetto was strong enough to kill an enemy that was FOUR SSJ'S ABOVE someone that SSJ3 Goku AND SSJ2 Vegeta teamed up, would have had no chance against... WITH A WAVE. SSJ1 Vegetto >>>>> Buuhan >>> Buutenks >>> Buucolo >> Super Buu >> SSJ3 Goku/SSJ2 Vegeta teamed up >>> SSJ3 Goku.

Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku.

Do you not understand this? Vegetto in BASE FORM would have EATEN Super Janemba. Probably as badly as Super Vegetto would have stomped Buuhan. Meaning that BASE Vegetto would have DEFINITELY been able to put Super Gogeta down, especially considering that base Vegetto is permanent, and Super Gogeta stays fused for less than 30 minutes. 👆 [/B]

Couple of things here:

1. It was SSJ2 Vegeta not Gohan.

2. SSJ3 Goku was not "on par" with Janemba. Janemba was clearly superior.

3. You have no idea if that was Gogeta's "strongest attck". It was his "ONLY" attack that we saw. Unless you have actual proof it was his strongest attack, that's a baseless claim.

4. There are many reasons the earrings can be considered "vastly superior to that silly dance" without it creating a stronger fighter:
a) The dance is more time consuming
b) The dance can be interrupted much more easily
c) The dance can be performed incorrectly resulting in a poor fighter
d) The users of the earrings don't have to have an even PL
e) The earrings don't have a time limit.

And 5. That "rivialry boost" could occur with the dance as well, but even if not, there is no indication it boosts them over the SSJ multipliers.

Good post Jugs, at least someone here still has enough will power left to reason with Forum Gogeta.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Janemba rivaled Buu's power.

Which Boo are you referring to?
Again, gimme actual proofs.

Originally posted by juggerman
4. There are many reasons the earrings can be considered "vastly superior to that silly dance" without it creating a stronger fighter:
a) The dance is more time consuming
b) The dance can be interrupted much more easily
c) The dance can be performed incorrectly resulting in a poor fighter
d) The users of the earrings don't have to have an even PL
e) The earrings don't have a time limit.

And 5. That "rivialry boost" could occur with the dance as well, but even if not, there is no indication it boosts them over the SSJ multipliers.

- It is explicitly stated in the manga that the Potara have a greater effect than fusion dance and that, furthermore, they don't have a time limit.
Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta, that's a fact, and by how much it is told us by Boohan's and Goku's statements.

- Elder Kai never remotely cared about the inferior fusion dance, every thing he said was about the Potara fusion, included the "rival boost".
To say that it would apply also to regular fusion dance is thus just pure speculation.