Baleman backlash

Started by Esau Cairn3 pages
Originally posted by Based
One was intentional, the other isn't. Rises nitpicking is old, do something from Begins.

What the hell do you mean, one's intentional while the other isn't?

All 3 are examples of bad fight sequences by the same choreographer.

I honestly can't think of any nitpickings from Begins...TDK & TDKR progressively went downhill afterwards.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Conservation of Ninjutsu. It's pretty common in most superhero and action stories. Plus, I suppose you could argue that seeing Batman pop out of nowhere is freaky and broke their concentration. Otherwise? Yeah, terrible fight choreography.

Care to explain what happens to hired goon on the far left. The one that falls/slips/KO's himself?

Originally posted by Inhuman
Care to explain what happens to hired goon on the far left. The one that falls/slips/KO's himself?
Batman's shadow punched him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Batman's shadow punched him.

batman found a way

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Plus, I suppose you could argue that seeing Batman pop out of nowhere is freaky and broke their concentration.

I'm not having a go at you...but yeah it would've been an awesome scene for Batman to pop out of the darkness...but sadly Nolan gave us a Batman (who in this scene) casually walks down the well lighted road to meet his armed assailants.

I don't get why the fight choreography was so shitty, it's like they did it intentionally.

Its part of Nolans "charm"

Is not like the fight choreography was really better in the previous two movies either, but that was kinda overlooked in comparison since they had a number of other qualities to make up for them, while Rises tended to rely more on the subpar choreography for the action.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
while Rises tended to rely more on the subpar choreography for the action.

I did enjoy the "implied" violence in Begins where Batman utilised the shadows to take down the crims.
However the subpar choreography became too obvious in TDKR when gunmen were throwing punches back...instead of shooting the guns they were holding.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I'm not having a go at you...but yeah it would've been an awesome scene for Batman to pop out of the darkness...but sadly Nolan gave us a Batman (who in this scene) casually walks down the well lighted road to meet his armed assailants.

...After knocking out a good chunk of them with tranquilizer darts.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Care to explain what happens to hired goon on the far left. The one that falls/slips/KO's himself?

My pet theory is that he slipped on the ice and just played dead rather than face Batman. He knew he was done for either way.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
My pet theory is that he slipped on the ice and just played dead rather than face Batman. He knew he was done for either way.

And Batman fell for it?

What a detective!

Originally posted by ares834
But there are plenty of depressing Suprman stories. Hell, perhaps the most famous Superman comic (Death of Superman) is depressing. Now I agree, I wish the film was far more optimistic and upbeat and I think accusing it of being too dark and too dreary is a very fair criticism. But simply saying "dat ain't Superman" based solely on preconceived (and often flawed) notions of what the character is is not a valid one.
Death of Superman had a vibrant color palette and showcased Superman being the inspirational icon he was meant to be, despite the comic itself being depressing.

In fact, the reason the comic was depressing is because Superman is this beacon of hope. Seeing that hope dashed is sad as ****.

The problem with Man of Steel is that there is no hope to be found. The washed out, shitgrey color palette and the overall depressing atmosphere and tone do nothing to make you care if Superman fails. I feel no reason to give a **** about Pa Kent being killed because of how insanely shitdark and morbid the character and context is.

Also, if the movie isn't even going to try to capture the tone of the character being adapted, why is it a Superman movie? When you attach the name onto something, there needs to be something of the source material there. The only moment in Man of Steel that is Supermanly (other than the admittedly awesome fight sequences) is the first flying scene.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
And Batman fell for it?

What a detective!

Well, he got arrested by the cops. Maybe he was shot for his troubles off camera.