Black suspect dies after Baltimore cops break his spine in ‘brutal’ police beating:

Started by MF DELPH18 pages

I personally think that in adult discourse there's enough space to acknowledge and condemn both the police brutality that led to this tragedy AND the resultant looting, while also acknowledging that not all of the protesters are looting. However, there is a large enough contingent of looters and rioters to where common sense would deem that calling that group out specifically (i.e., the looters are assh*les) is not aimed at the peaceful marchers, and there's no need for the peaceful protestors, or their supporters, to be offended at the condemnation of the violent contingent. The issue isn't their peaceful efforts being purposely ignored, it's the other opportunist contingent ****ing up the perception of the group they are allegedly a part of. Just like the bad cops that make all cops look bad and law enforcement, collectively, is viewed through a lens of mistrust. Or the brothas that are 'bout dat life' that cause those of us living a law abiding, responsible lifestyle to also be profiled.

Just heard on MSNBC from Lawrence ODonnell that Washington Post leaked some info that Freddy Grey intentional hurt himself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/prisoner-in-van-said-freddie-gray-was-banging-against-the-walls-during-ride/2015/04/29/56d7da10-eec6-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3061824/Witness-says-Freddie-Gray-trying-hurt-Baltimore-police-van-Wash-Post.html

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Just heard on MSNBC from Lawrence ODonnell that Washington Post leaked some info that Freddy Grey intentional hurt himself.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/prisoner-in-van-said-freddie-gray-was-banging-against-the-walls-during-ride/2015/04/29/56d7da10-eec6-11e4-8666-a1d756d0218e_story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3061824/Witness-says-Freddie-Gray-trying-hurt-Baltimore-police-van-Wash-Post.html


I don't think anyone is stupid enough to break their own spine and induce themselves in a self-afflicted coma on purpose.

The cops were at fault there. These sound to me as cover-ups for police effing up once again.

Still, there is no excuse for the looters sacking and pillaging the town.
It seems as if the majority of the US citizens' collective mentality is to riot/protest over any instance of authoritarian abuse.
Some evil people are using the abuse incidents as a reason just to steal/break stuff and/or hurt other people.

More stuff spilling out about this story.

Turns out the guy prolly wasn't even what people thought.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/30/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death-investigation/index.html

Stringer, what's the status out there?

"I'll go burn down my neighborhood 'cause a cop accidentally killed someone I don't know."

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
"I'll go burn down my neighborhood 'cause a cop accidentally killed someone I don't know."

And some how that's a cop accidentally killing someone means the same thing as racist

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I personally think that in adult discourse there's enough space to acknowledge and condemn both the police brutality that led to this tragedy AND the resultant looting, while also acknowledging that not all of the protesters are looting. However, there is a large enough contingent of looters and rioters to where common sense would deem that calling that group out specifically (i.e., the looters are assh*les) is not aimed at the peaceful marchers, and there's no need for the peaceful protestors, or their supporters, to be offended at the condemnation of the violent contingent. The issue isn't their peaceful efforts being purposely ignored, it's the other opportunist contingent ****ing up the perception of the group they are allegedly a part of. Just like the bad cops that make all cops look bad and law enforcement, collectively, is viewed through a lens of mistrust. Or the brothas that are 'bout dat life' that cause those of us living a law abiding, responsible lifestyle to also be profiled.

I've read some rather interesting op eds from black intellectuals which suggest that because the system in Baltimore (and arguably America as a whole) is tipped so far against poor blacks, violent protests might be the only way of bringing enough attention on their plight to actually secure hope of real change (a squeaky wheel gets the grease scenario). The headline of these commentaries is always basically "no one cares about black anger and black anguish until cars get set on fire, so set some cars on fire."

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
"I'll go burn down my neighborhood 'cause a cop accidentally killed someone I don't know."

It looks like the guy killed himself after all.

Guy wasn't even hurt by cops, he did it to himself.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/30/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death-investigation/index.html

Guy arrested for wielding a illegal knife.

Guy go nutz banging his head against van and palling in the van.

Guy dies for breaking the law and being an idiot.

Community burns city down.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Guy arrested for wielding a illegal knife.

Guy go nutz banging his head against van and palling in the van.

Guy dies for breaking the law and being an idiot.

Community burns city down.


Still a better love story than twilight

Rodney King rioting was exactly 23 years ago due to police brutality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/04/29/two-riots-23-years-apart-from-rodney-king-to-freddie-gray/

Why didn't the white community riot when OJ got off?

Also guys, look at this kids friggin rap sheet:

http://heavy.com/news/2015/04/freddie-gray-arrest-record-criminal-history-rap-sheet-why-was-freddie-gray-arrested/

HOW was this person not already in friggin jail? No wonder he ran.

Originally posted by Lestov16
😕 Um....source?

Just so I'm clear, you believe Gray deserves no protests for his death and EVERY person protesting out there is some kind of criminal. You do know that in practically every culture and group of society, there are opportunists looking to exploit a tragedy. This case is especially understandable since most of looters seem to be immature high school students. There are others out there who are actually peacefully protesting about a horrific murder in which a guy's spine was snapped like a twig out of cruelty, but you don't seem to care about that.

I never said he deserves no protests. He just doesn't deserve riots, looting, and burning. It's not understandable just because they are all high school students, where the hell are their god damn parents? Also, I've seen images and videos, not every looter is in high school, some look like grown ass adults.

You are right I don't care about the peaceful protests, and why? Because they are doing it the CORRECT way. There is no reason to be concerned about it, they are going about this the proper way. As opposed to the trash looting and burning. See the people who hear about this death and use it as an excuse to loot and burn are the ones we truly need to be worried about, we need these people weeded out of society and put in prison.

So those are the people I meant when I said they are not doing this over this guys death. They are just animals using any excuse to act out their violent tendencies. Actually scratch that, calling them animals is an insult to animals. If they cared about Freddy they would be peacefully protesting. Especially after the guys parents friggin tell people violence is not the answer and yet..the riots did not stop after the parents said that. Which truly goes to show the people didn't give a f*ck about this kids death.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Rodney King rioting was exactly 23 years ago due to police brutality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/04/29/two-riots-23-years-apart-from-rodney-king-to-freddie-gray/

Why didn't the white community riot when OJ got off?

Why did white people riot over pumpkins, who knows?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It looks like the guy killed himself after all.

Guy wasn't even hurt by cops, he did it to himself.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/30/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death-investigation/index.html

Did you even read the article?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why did white people riot over pumpkins, who knows?

White people LOVE pumpkin spiced coffee.

Originally posted by Surtur
White people LOVE pumpkin spiced coffee.

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE pumpkin cheesecake.

Its a 9.5 out of 10, for me, when done right.

Edit - oops, off topic. Don't ban me, bro! I want pumpkin cheesecake and less racism!

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Rodney King rioting was exactly 23 years ago due to police brutality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/04/29/two-riots-23-years-apart-from-rodney-king-to-freddie-gray/

Why didn't the white community riot when OJ got off?


Three reasons that I can think of:

1) The OJ verdict was a one off case. The whole reason it was so noteworthy is that it was one of the few times in American history when a clearly guilty black person was let off the hook, whereas it's happened often with clearly guilty white people. If this were a habitual event, you can be sure white resentment would have been much worse.

2) White people aren't economically disadvantaged or victimized by the criminal justice system, so again, less motive to riot

3) The OJ case wasn't a civil rights case and didn't stem from preexisting racial tensions. That the victim was white was circumstantial and had nothing to do with why OJ killed her (he was just a scumbag who wanted to kill his wife)

Originally posted by Surtur
White people LOVE pumpkin spiced coffee.
They really do, I don't get the hype.

Originally posted by Mindset
They really do, I don't get the hype.

You know black people and watermelon it's like that