Black suspect dies after Baltimore cops break his spine in ‘brutal’ police beating:

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Michael Brown's partner in crime said he had his hands up and was shot in the back and everyone believed him. But he had a reason to lie.

Originally posted by Mindset
But you didn't. 👆

Correct

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Correct

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Michael Brown's partner in crime said he had his hands up and was shot in the back and everyone believed him. But he had a reason to lie. Anyways the truth always comes out like it did then, it will again soon.

Why do you believe this criminal then?

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you believe this criminal then?

Michael Brown's accomplice had a reason to lie.

This other guy, we don't know his motive.

What we do know is the guy was fine before he got in the van, and the huge question initially everyone was asking was "what happened in the van."

Now we are hearing that that the van had an undisclosed stop.

Not sure what I think yet, this has just presented itself today.

Too soon to tell, but I am not picking sides yet until more evidence comes out.

Did they stop the van and beat him? Wouldn't the other criminal have mentioned this stop and beating?

Another thing is circling that he might have had a pre existing spinal injury.

So many questions...

I think being in police custody is a good motive in giving evidence that supports the police when they're being questioned about a possible wrongdoing.

Coroner's report claims that a damaged larynx was also part of the reason in Gray's death. Maybe he crushed it himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think being in police custody is a good motive in giving evidence that supports the police when they're being questioned about a possible wrongdoing.

We don't know what the wrong doing is though by the police, we have video of him being held down because the guy was armed and dangerous, we have zero video or eyewitness of him being beat..by anyone.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think being in police custody is a good motive in giving evidence that supports the police when they're being questioned about a possible wrongdoing.

Coroner's report claims that a crushed larynx was also part of the reason in Gray's death. Maybe he crushed it himself.

So you think that being in police custody is a good case for helping exonerate the police?

Why would the opposite not be true?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial

What we do know is the guy was fine before he got in the van

Originally posted by Robtard
I think being in police custody is a good motive in giving evidence that supports the police when they're being questioned about a possible wrongdoing.

Coroner's report claims that a damaged larynx was also part of the reason in Gray's death. Maybe he crushed it himself.

I'm not defending the police, I'm trying to find the truth.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So you think that being in police custody is a good case for helping exonerate the police?

Why would the opposite not be true?

If I was a criminal that feared for my life or was told that I could get a deal, sure.

Add cameras to the holding cell, even if it is on wheels; in addition to body cams and dashboard cams.

Originally posted by Robtard
If I was a criminal that feared for my life or was told that I could get a deal, sure.

What do you think happened?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What do you think happened?

Gray suffered injuries to his spine and throat which caused him to go into coma (while in police custody) and eventual death. Those appear to be facts no one is disputing.

IMO, police rough-handled another black criminal and he died from his injuries. Even if Gray had a preexisting condition, it's still the police's fault. If we go with "Gray had spinal surgery recently" as fact, his spine was still damaged between him being arrested and going into a coma in the truck, that also doesn't explain away the throat injuries at all.

Originally posted by Robtard
If I was a criminal that feared for my life or was told that I could get a deal, sure.

Interesting.

I see the opposite. I think a better case can be made for wanting to harm the person because they know they won't get into trouble. 6 police versus 1 very crimey criminal. Who is the DA going to believe?

Also, would not the police have forensic evidence on their person/uniforms if they beat the person? Even if they washed their clothes and knuckles/hands, they'd still have stuff on them: skin, blood, hair, fibers, etc.

And their bodies would be damaged from harming him. Bruising on their knuckles, scratches from him resisting.

It's not like on TV: humans get their gross flesh and fluids on everything. In a fight, there's tons of evidence.

Originally posted by Robtard
Gray suffered injuries to his spine and throat which caused him to go into coma (while in police custody) and eventual death. Those appear to be facts no one is disputing.

IMO, police rough-handled another black criminal and he died from his injuries. Even if Gray had a preexisting condition, it's still the police's fault. Even if we go with "Gray had spinal surgery recently" as fact, his spine was still damaged between him being arrested and going into a coma in the truck, that also doesn't explain away the throat injuries at all.

I don't know what you're trying to say, now. I thought you were supporting an innocence case for the police.

So you are in support of Gray?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Interesting.

I see the opposite. I think a better case can be made for wanting to harm the person because they know they won't get into trouble. 6 police versus 1 very crimey criminal. Who is the DA going to believe?

Also, would not the police have forensic evidence on their person/uniforms if they beat the person? Even if they washed their clothes and knuckles/hands, they'd still have stuff on them: skin, blood, hair, fibers, etc.

And their bodies would be damaged from harming him. Bruising on their knuckles, scratches from him resisting.

It's not like on TV: humans get their gross flesh and fluids on everything. In a fight, there's tons of evidence.

I don't really support Gray, he has a long arrest record of being a scummy guy. Doesn't mean the police have a right to cause his death though.

is that the official explanation now? suicide? at what point will the department of justice step in and end this ****ing clown show?

Originally posted by Mindset
They should be able to tell if the damage was self-inflicted.

Yes, that too. Especially that.

That was the first question that popped on my mind when they said it was a suicide.

I mean, the coroner and the forensics should be able to tell if those were self-afflicted injuries.

On the other hand, what's bothering me is the delaying of the police report. Baltimore police dept. are up to somthing fishy.
Waiting it out will probably lead to more burning/looting by mob thugs in the streets.