Thor (Age of Ultron) VS Superman (Man of Steel)

Started by Time Immemorial18 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes he is, the way a heavyweight champion boxer is above the average couch potato. He is not a SUPER asgardian though. He is not excessively more durable than other Asgardians (unless you can prove otherwise). So normal Asgardian weapons should still work on him.

Normal Asgardians were getting killed by Elves and Frost Giants, where is Thor was tearing through them like cannon fodder. So yea he is as much as 5-10 tiers above a normal one.

He is way above the warriors three even.

Please now are you really gonna go off on another tangent that I will destroy again?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Normal Asgardians were getting killed by Elves and Frost Giants, where is Thor was tearing through them like cannon fodder. So yea he is as much as 5-10 tiers above a normal one.

He is way above the warriors three even.

Please now are you really gonna go off on another tangent that I will destroy again?

LOL. You can't be that stupid can you? Thor wasn't getting killed because he wasn't getting hit with fatal shots. Because he was that good. It wasn't because he was ridiculously more durable than the average Asgardian. He probably is more durable than the Average asgardian, but not so much so that normal Asgardian weapons won't work on him. Again, where is your proof?

Originally posted by FrothByte
LOL. You can't be that stupid can you? Thor wasn't getting killed because he wasn't getting hit with fatal shots. Because he was that good. It wasn't because he was ridiculously more durable than the average Asgardian. He probably is more durable than the Average asgardian, but not so much so that normal Asgardian weapons won't work on him. Again, where is your proof?

Oh so any Asgardian would have lived from Kurses beating?

😆

Were done.

IIRC, Kurse was one shotting regular Asgardians but Thor took a massive pounding from him and lived.

Edit. TI beat me to it. :-p

At the very least, it shows a much higher degree of durability against blunt damage. Tho, it is questionable if it means that he is immune to standard Asgardian weapons. One would think that basic Asgardian weapons should hurt him, tho. As normal Asgardian weapons have killed other Kurses in the past.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
IIRC, Kurse was one shotting regular Asgardians but Thor took a massive pounding from him and lived.

Edit. TI beat me to it. :-p

No worries, we have gotten into the stupid and winding down phase of the argument where the other side runs out of straws to grasp at.

Now its Thor isn't that much above a normal Asgardian😂

What will they think of next.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

At the very least, it shows a much higher degree of durability against blunt damage. Tho, it is questionable if it means that he is immune to standard Asgardian weapons. One would think that basic Asgardian weapons should hurt him, tho. As normal Asgardian weapons have killed other Kurses in the past.

We know he's not immune to blunt damage but Loki's dagger to his stomach did more damage to him they any other weapon shown on screen. Even when Loki stabbed him with Gungir didn't hurt him as much, so we know Loki's magical daggers are pretty uber.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
We know he's not immune to blunt damage but Loki's dagger to his stomach did more damage to him they any other weapon shown on screen. Even when Loki stabbed him with Gungir didn't hurt him as much, so we know Loki's magical daggers are pretty uber.

Fair enough. Gungir did one shot Ice Giants (who were comparable physically to normal Asgardians).

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Fair enough. Gungir did one shot Ice Giants (who were comparable physically to normal Asgardians).

Yea Gungir is bad ass.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You can't clearly see him doing anything 😆
So you did not see him reach for his belt and then throw the dagger. At this point you're not just ignoring reason you're ignoring on screen feats.

Originally posted by Newjak
So you did not see him reach for his belt and then throw the dagger. At this point you're not just ignoring reason you're ignoring on screen feats.

Just like you been doing. 😆

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No worries, we have gotten into the stupid and winding down phase of the argument where the other side runs out of straws to grasp at.

Now its Thor isn't that much above a normal Asgardian😂

What will they think of next.

You're twisting my words. I never said Thor wasn't more durable than a normal Asgardian. I said he didn't have a tremendous durability advantage than a normal Asgardian.

Funny how you fail to see how much straws you try to keep grasping at. For example:

You think Kryptonian weapons are more powerful than Asgardian weapons simply because they're big, flashy lasers.

You also believe that since Superman hasn't been hurt by kryptonian weapons then no other weapons from other races can't hurt him.

Then you claim that Thor's fighting ability is nothing more than him doing flashy moves.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
IIRC, Kurse was one shotting regular Asgardians but Thor took a massive pounding from him and lived.

Edit. TI beat me to it. :-p

At the very least, it shows a much higher degree of durability against blunt damage. Tho, it is questionable if it means that he is immune to standard Asgardian weapons. One would think that basic Asgardian weapons should hurt him, tho. As normal Asgardian weapons have killed other Kurses in the past.

As I told TI, the difference between Thor and normal asgardians would be most likely be the difference between your heavyweight UFC champion and the average couch potato. While another UFC fighter can one shot most couch potatoes, he won't be able to one shot the UFC champ.

What TI is insisting is that Thor is this super Asgardian who is immune to normal Asgardian weapons.

Originally posted by FrothByte
As I told TI, the difference between Thor and normal asgardians would be most likely be the difference between your heavyweight UFC champion and the average couch potato. While another UFC fighter can one shot most couch potatoes, he won't be able to one shot the UFC champ.

What TI is insisting is that Thor is this super Asgardian who is immune to normal Asgardian weapons.

How do you know that's the difference? I mean what makes ou the authority on it? From screen feats we clearly see Kurse one shotting Asgardians who by which you previously said were the same level as Thor. Since then you have retracted that and compared this to boxing. Which is a horrible comparison.

Needles to say Thor is fathoms above normal Asgardians.

This discussion is stupid.

Thor's obviously significantly more durable than a regular Asgardian but Asgardian Knives and swords are just in general far above regular ones (Even bullets) and can cut Thor, Loki doesn't rock anything especially powerful. In Thor 2 they even add blue light sabre like effects to Asgardian weapons and they run through the Accursed easily.

Originally posted by FrothByte
As I told TI, the difference between Thor and normal asgardians would be most likely be the difference between your heavyweight UFC champion and the average couch potato. While another UFC fighter can one shot most couch potatoes, he won't be able to one shot the UFC champ.

What TI is insisting is that Thor is this super Asgardian who is immune to normal Asgardian weapons.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You're twisting my words. I never said Thor wasn't more durable than a normal Asgardian. I said he didn't have a tremendous durability advantage than a normal Asgardian.

Funny how you fail to see how much straws you try to keep grasping at. For example:

You think Kryptonian weapons are more powerful than Asgardian weapons simply because they're big, flashy lasers.

You also believe that since Superman hasn't been hurt by kryptonian weapons then no other weapons from other races can't hurt him.

Then you claim that Thor's fighting ability is nothing more than him doing flashy moves.

Appears you the one twisting. I never said Asgardian weapons couldn't hurt Thor, read above.. I said the cannon fodder isn't hurting him, just like it wasn't hurting Kurse.. Keep it up though.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Appears you the one twisting. I never said Asgardian weapons couldn't hurt Thor, read above.. I said the cannon fodder isn't hurting him, just like it wasn't hurting Kurse.. Keep it up though.

Too many threads to reply to. Let's just get this clear.

Do you believe that normal Asgardian weapons (those carried by their regular warriors) can hurt Thor? Yes or no.

Do you believe that normal Asgardian weapons can hurt Superman? Yes or no.

No because Gungir did literally nothing to him.

No because his skin is too strong.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No because Gungir did literally nothing to him.

No because his skin is too strong.

Ok then let's just agree to disagree. We've already derailed this thread too much (and part of that is my fault). So let's drop the whole weapon thing and go back to Thor vs. Superman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Too many threads to reply to. Let's just get this clear.

Do you believe that normal Asgardian weapons (those carried by their regular warriors) can hurt Thor? Yes or no.

Do you believe that normal Asgardian weapons can hurt Superman? Yes or no.

why wouldn't "regular" asgardian weapons hurt thor. if i recall loki stabbed thor with a small knife on stark tower. thor then took it out "painfully" and cast it aside

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
why wouldn't "regular" asgardian weapons hurt thor. if i recall loki stabbed thor with a small knife on stark tower. thor then took it out "painfully" and cast it aside

Ask TI.