Thor (Age of Ultron) VS Superman (Man of Steel)

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Loki's Magical Dagger>Cannon fodder sword.

Key word "Magic"

Lets not keep doing this, cause I'm going to beat you on this, you had a better line of debate before you went off on a rant about a deleted scene.

"Magical" is debatable. But I can give you other examples if you wish:

Coulson shoots Loki with a specially built, hand held anti-asgardian laser canon. Didn't even put a scratch on him.

Frost giant easily skewers Fandrall with his icicle hand.

My point here is: Just because something is a flashy laser doesn't automatically make it more effective.

A base Asgardian is stronger then a base kryptonian, there is no debate about that.

Your trying to say now that a base Asgardian with a sword can now kill a Super Powered Kryptonian based on those swords were developed to combat other super powered beings, yet none of the ones that you mentioned are anywhere near as strong as a sun powered kryptonian.

Kryptonian>Elves, Frost Giants.

There is simply no way that base line sword and spear that Thor snapped in half is going to harm MOS. Not in any way shape or form.

Your using a no limits fallacy that because it fought frost giants, elves, its now going to work on Kryptonians..

Originally posted by FrothByte
"Magical" is debatable. But I can give you other examples if you wish:

Coulson shoots Loki with a specially built, hand held anti-asgardian laser canon. Didn't even put a scratch on him.

Frost giant easily skewers Fandrall with his icicle hand.

My point here is: Just because something is a flashy laser doesn't automatically make it more effective.

So the daggers he makes appear out of no where are not magical? 😆

Dude, the depths you tryingto reach for here are beyond.

Are you really saying his daggers are not magical now?

Just give it up already..your getting silly.

I just took another win with this one, and this is the third one..

Good night.

See how you completely skip my other argument and try to steer me away?

Cheap tactics. Very cheap.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You do realize that when a fighter blocks or dodges a blow it's not really that much about speed as it is about timing, technique, muscle memory and reflexes right?

Originally posted by ares834
No such thing is said. He says he will cause it to keep "doubling back" which is an expression that means to return it back where it came from not actually double it.

Ergo, Thor didn't destroy the city. It was the atomic reaction which did.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So the daggers he makes appear out of no where are not magical? 😆

Dude, the depths you tryingto reach for here are beyond.

Are you really saying his daggers are not magical now?

Just give it up already..your getting silly.

I just took another win with this one, and this is the third one..

Good night.

Superman still wins

Originally posted by Newjak
Loki's daggers are not anymore magical than anyother weapon in Asgard. Also he does not make them appear he has them on him. In Thor 2 he clearly asks for Thor to give him his daggers.

First of all using a deleted scene is against MVF Rules.

Second you can't prove those cannon fodder spears were magical.

Third, we know without a doubt Loki's daggers are magical.

Fourth, How does Loki asking Thor for one of his daggers prove that cannon fodder spears are magical in nature?

Reported and I'll wait for Imp's ruling.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
First of all using a deleted scene is against MVF Rules.

Second you can't prove those cannon fodder spears were magical.

Third, we know without a doubt Loki's daggers are magical.

How does Loki asking Thor for one of his daggers prove that cannon fodder spears are magical in nature..

Reported and I'll wait for Imp's ruling.

First off I did not comment about a deleted scene. I simply made comments on the nature of Loki's daggers. They are not anymore magical than anyother weapons shown in Asgard.

First off what makes Loki's daggers magical? Is it that they glow because in Thor dark world Asgardian weapons glow on impact as well.

You made the implication that Loki's daggers are magical because he can make them appear out of nowhere. All I said is that Loki does not make them appear out of thin air. We know this because had to literally ask Thor to give him his daggers when Thor broke him out of his cell. So the daggers are not something Loki summons.

Bascially I am correcting mistakes you are making on the nature of Loki's daggers.

Originally posted by Newjak
Go ahead should be fun.

First off I did not comment about a deleted scene. I simply made comments on the nature of Loki's daggers. They are not anymore magical than anyother weapons shown in Asgard.

First off what makes Loki's daggers magical? Is it that they glow because in Thor dark world Asgardian weapons glow on impact as well.

You made the implication that Loki's daggers are magical because he can make them appear out of nowhere. All I said is that Loki does not make them appear out of thin air. We know this because had to literally ask Thor to give him his daggers when Thor broke him out of his cell. So the daggers are not something Loki summons.

Bascially I am correcting mistakes you are making on the nature of Loki's daggers.

Nope and wrong.

http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Loki_Laufeyson

"Once in Jotunheim, Thor leads himself and his friends into conflict and attacks the Jotuns even after being granted safe passage home. During the ensuing fight, Loki uses his abilities to save his brother and friends in several instances, including creating false versions of himself and hurling magic daggers at the Jotuns. "

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope and wrong.

http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Loki_Laufeyson

"Once in Jotunheim, Thor leads himself and his friends into conflict and attacks the Jotuns even after being granted safe passage home. During the ensuing fight, Loki uses his abilities to save his brother and friends in several instances, including creating false versions of himself and hurling [b]magic daggers at the Jotuns. " [/B]

Like I said though Loki's daggers are not any more magical than other Asgardian weapons. Once again what makes them more so TI?

Good glad we cleared that up.

I wont be responding to your off topic debate any longer.

Originally posted by FrothByte
See how you completely skip my other argument and try to steer me away?

Cheap tactics. Very cheap.

Which one, didn't mean to skip.

I was asked to make a ruling about using deleted scenes as canon.

In my opinion, any deleted scenes from any film were removed because of certain reasons. If a re-cut of the film is ever released and those scenes are reincorporated, then we can count them as canonical. Until then, let's stick to actual movie feats that were released as is.

Also, certain people need to calm down and put away their dicks. This isn't a pissing contest.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Good glad we cleared that up.

I wont be responding to your off topic debate any longer.

Nor are his daggers any more magical than any other Asgardian weapons shown.

Since he's not shown carrying any and the keeps getting more, I guess they come out of thin air huh?

Thor didn't have a dagger on him, so where was he going to get it? Out of thin air?

😂

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm glad your source of truth is a Wiki page.

Like I said though Loki's daggers are not any more magical than other Asgardian weapons. Once again what makes them more so TI?

What is your source of truth that the spears cannon fodder carry are magical in nature?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Since he's not shown carrying any and the keeps getting more, I guess they come out of thin air huh?

Thor didn't have a dagger on him, so where was he going to get it? Out of thin air?

😂

Listen Loki does not summon them out thin air. First off in Thor the Dark World Thor does hand Loki the dagger he uses in the battle with the elves on the dark world. Loki even says it's about time you come to your senses when he is given the weapon.

In the first Thor in the fight with the Frost Giants we saw him reach into his armor and pull daggers out and then throw them at a giant.

You're just wrong on this whole out of thin air nonsense. Your reasoning is flawed. Oh he never ran out daggers therefore he must have the ability to magically summon them? Really that's how you came to the conclusion. It never came to your mind that Loki might just carry multiple of them on his person? Considering he only ever uses max 7 or 8 in any one fight even if we did not see him literally grab them while reaching into his coat that odds are he can just carry a few extra. Seriously trying to be nice here but instead of just defending something that is factually wrong just admit it and move on.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What is your source of truth that the spears cannon fodder carry are magical in nature?