Originally posted by FrothByte
What proof have you that Superman is above Kurse? We also haven't seen Kurse's limit.Thor has been hurt before but never knocked out. We've seen Kal knocked out.
His feats, strength, durability and power are all above Kurse..
Kurse's limit was iron and black holes. Supermans was not.
Kurse's limit was a blackhole opened right in front of him. Lois survived the same blackhole as Superman so it's not such a good feat.
Superman never had an elven sword plunged into him by anyone of asgardian level strength, so we don't know if his durability is better than Kurse.
Strength, yeah I'll give you that. Kurse however has far better fighting skills.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Kurse's limit was a blackhole opened right in front of him. Lois survived the same blackhole as Superman so it's not such a good feat.Superman never had an elven sword plunged into him by anyone of asgardian level strength, so we don't know if his durability is better than Kurse.
Strength, yeah I'll give you that. Kurse however has far better fighting skills.
I don't think its a debate on who has greater durabilty feats then Kurse. They go handily to MoS. What was his great durabilty feats because I don't really recall any..If Loki tried to stab Kal with a sword, the damn thing would break. Even Kryptonian tech couldn't put MoS down. A sword isn't doing that either.
How is his fighting skill that much better?
Sometimes you make me question my sanity cause I really don't recall Uber durabilty feats from Kurse.
Originally posted by FrothByte
When was Kal stabbed by any kryptonian weapon?Kurse slapping away mjolnir and beating Thor to the punch speak of his skill.
Besides, when has Kal ever taken a hit as strong as a charged mjolnir strike? How will Kal even land hits on Thor when speed is equal?
So because speed is equalized that means Kal is automatically slower and can't land hits? I don't recall Hulk or Ironman or Loki having a problem landing hits..
He took the World Engine blast..
Originally posted by ares834
Just saw the movie. That was definitely all Thor.Spoiler:
He hit the core and it created a massive shockwave. Similar to what happens when he hits Cap's shield.Still Superman wins. Thor doesn't have nearly enough time to charge an attack like that here.
Bout to go see it again. Thor did not destroy that entire landmass by himself. Abhi is correct. Thors initial strike straight up crumpled like 6 blocks filled with various buildings as well as the ground it was on. Then it kept going on to do further destruction. The complete destruction of the entire floating city was because of the bomb. And Thor pretty much tanked that shit.
Regardless, its still more power than MOS has been shown to have ever been hit with. If it was just the striking feat I would still give Supes the win 6/10, maybe 7. But that durability feat pretty much guarantees Thor can take whatever MOS dishes out long enough to bring the hammer down.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Bout to go see it again. Thor did not destroy that entire landmass by himself. Abhi is correct. Thors initial strike straight up crumpled like 6 blocks filled with various buildings as well as the ground it was on. Then it kept going on to do further destruction. The complete destruction of the entire floating city was because of the bomb. And Thor pretty much tanked that shit.Regardless, its still more power than MOS has been shown to have ever been hit with. If it was just the striking feat I would still give Supes the win 6/10, maybe 7. But that durability feat pretty much guarantees Thor can take whatever MOS dishes out long enough to bring the hammer down.
Kal tanked the World Engine weakend..as well as re entry, Krptonian weapons, his equals outnumbering him and beating on him, as well as the black hole. I think that explosion was >MoS.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So because speed is equalized that means Kal is automatically slower and can't land hits? I don't recall Hulk or Ironman or Loki having a problem landing hits..He took the World Engine blast..
Speed equalized doesn't mean fighting ability is equalized. Hulk was never able to land a hit on Thor unless it was a cheapshot or if Thor was already off his feet.
IM also had trouble landing hits on Thor. IIRC, all the hits he landed were due to him using his thrusters. When they stood toe to toe he couldn't land a hit except for the headbutt.
That said, I want to make myself clear. Superman can hit Thor. Just that he'll mostly miss whereas Thor will connect with regularity.
Originally posted by ares834
Bomb? When was there a bomb mentioned?
Friday: The anti-gravs are rigged to (fit?). Touch them and they go full reverse thrust. The city's not coming down soon.Tony: It's (part?) vibranium. If I get Thor to hit it....
Friday: It'll crack. That's not enough. The impact would still be devastating.
Tony: Maybe I could cap the other end. Keep the atomic action doubling back.
Friday: That could vaporize the city. And everyone on it.
In short the Shockwave kept doubling and that's why the city was vaporized.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Speed equalized doesn't mean fighting ability is equalized. Hulk was never able to land a hit on Thor unless it was a cheapshot or if Thor was already off his feet.IM also had trouble landing hits on Thor. IIRC, all the hits he landed were due to him using his thrusters. When they stood toe to toe he couldn't land a hit except for the headbutt.
That said, I want to make myself clear. Superman can hit Thor. Just that he'll mostly miss whereas Thor will connect with regularity.
Thor couldn't react to Tony firing his repulsor and flying away, fell flat on his face. To think Thor is going to be untouchable here is nonsense. Hulk was an out of control savage, Superman isn't.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Speed equalized doesn't mean fighting ability is equalized. Hulk was never able to land a hit on Thor unless it was a cheapshot or if Thor was already off his feet.IM also had trouble landing hits on Thor. IIRC, all the hits he landed were due to him using his thrusters. When they stood toe to toe he couldn't land a hit except for the headbutt.
That said, I want to make myself clear. Superman can hit Thor. Just that he'll mostly miss whereas Thor will connect with regularity.
superman can hit thor, agreed. thor is a warrior though and Kal is a farm boy throwing punches
yes the asgardian and kryptonial are immensly powerful but it just comes down to skill and advanteges in the end