Originally posted by carver9
I guess they had to find a reason to give on Vegeta and Goku separating. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's better that way so that we don't have to see Vegito throughout Super.
I agree with cdtm on this one.
The hour long fusion time for non-gods was an absolute ass-pull. It fits, but from now on, fusion is something that Vegeta and Goku can use to absolutely dominate an opponent that can absolutely dominate them. Goku and Vegeta weren't even able to scratch Zamasu, until his immortality started clashing with Black's biology within him. Vegito Blue treated Zamasu as casually as Super Vegito treated Buuhan. He didn't get serious at all, and he was effortlessly stomping him until the very instant that he unfused.
I kind of like the concept that the stronger they are, the shorter the fusion lasts, but they're going to eventually write the potara fusion into a corner, when Goku and Vegeta get so strong that they can't fuse with the potara earrings, or it'll only last like a second. Even being conservative here, the fusion lasted for probably like a minute or two, considering the speed he was fighting at. I feel like the stronger they are, the shorter the fusion aspect should have only been applied to the metamoranian fusion.
Also, I skipped the last few episodes, so I'm probably way more shocked than you all, at Trunks being the one to deliver the final blow. He must have gotten some ridiculous power boosts, since fighting SSJ3 Goku, lmao.
I'm actually not shocked at all; I said at the beginning of the arc that Trunks would definitely be the one to kill Black. Back then, though, I'd assumed that Black wouldn't be a god-level threat; what's retarded is that he was, and Trunks was still BSed into the drivers' seat when ****ing SSB Vegetto is involved.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm actually not shocked at all; I said at the beginning of the arc that Trunks would definitely be the one to kill Black. Back then, though, I'd assumed that Black wouldn't be a god-level threat; what's retarded is that he was, and Trunks was still BSed into the drivers' seat when ****ing SSB Vegetto is involved.
I guess two SSJ gods and two kaioshin's on top of all the Earthlings could make a pretty powerful sword, above even a Buu saga genkai dama. SSJ God ki basically seems like pure genkai dama style spirit energy, the way it's discribed.
And as noted, Zamasu was on his way out. If Goku by himself was hurting him. (Which still doesn't explain why Zamasu survived a final Kamehameha, if Goku alone messed him up.)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm actually not shocked at all; I said at the beginning of the arc that Trunks would definitely be the one to kill Black. Back then, though, I'd assumed that Black wouldn't be a god-level threat; what's retarded is that he was, and Trunks was still BSed into the drivers' seat when ****ing SSB Vegetto is involved.
Correction. A HIGHLY AMPED Trunks took out Z. That's great since this was an arc about Trunks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fdKxj77yh_Y
This guy summed it up pretty well, imo. The pros, cons, and such. And since he mentioned it, I would've thought more people would be happy that someone other than Goku saved the day.
I figured at this level of power one of the Gods could just unfuse them with magic cause shit didn't they unfuse due to being inside of Buu's stomach back in Z? Like now I'm just confused cause I don't see the point in ever picking the fusion dance over the potara if the potara is stronger and no longer permanent?
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fdKxj77yh_YThis guy summed it up pretty well, imo. The pros, cons, and such. And since he mentioned it, I would've thought more people would be happy that someone other than Goku saved the day.
Trunks bring the one to save the day is probably the best thing about this episode IMO. With that in mind though, his contributions through the fight that had him save the day were absurd. From the frequent power boost to the the spirit bomb sword appearing from nowhere, the way Trunks became mvp was pretty ridiculous even by DB standards.
I honestly don't see the problem and/or confusion. Super basically just explained why Potara fusion ended with Buu, Vegito basically ran out of time by toying and playing with Buu for as long as he did. Vegito learned from this new knowledge and wasted no time against Zamasu.
Maybe Supreme Kai simply didn't know that detail back then.
You don't know if Goku and Vegeta will have access to the ear rings in the case a foe merited them fusing.
Not to mention Gogeta is not canon, so Vegeta doesn't even know the dance as far as I know.
Way they are setting up Angry Power Boosts is basically just plot device. You all better get ready for the salt and butthurt when Gohan gets his little precious world destroyed and power boosts past everyone. To me Toriyama is just setting up the angry boosts to literally use "Angry Power Up Ass Pull" on demand if he runs out of ideas.
My 2 cents.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I honestly don't see the problem and/or confusion. Super basically just explained why Potara fusion ended with Buu, Vegito basically ran out of time by toying and playing with Buu for as long as he did. Vegito learned from this new knowledge and wasted no time against Zamasu.Maybe Supreme Kai simply didn't know that detail back then.
You don't know if Goku and Vegeta will have access to the ear rings in the case a foe merited them fusing.
Not to mention Gogeta is not canon, so Vegeta doesn't even know the dance as far as I know.
Way they are setting up Angry Power Boosts is basically just plot device. You all better get ready for the salt and butthurt when Gohan gets his little precious world destroyed and power boosts past everyone. To me Toriyama is just setting up the angry boosts to literally use "Angry Power Up Ass Pull" on demand if he runs out of ideas.
My 2 cents.