Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Dark-Kenshin633 pages

Just watched the 86th episode preview. Good god. Looks like Goku has to go SSB against Android 17 too. *sigh*

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreatorsApathy?from=Main.TheyJustDidntCare

Mentioned that in my previous post. Granted, was a couple pages ago, but yeah. As said before, not really a surprise by this point, and didn't 18 in the previous episode kick away a SSJB kamehameha when she saw Krillen was struggling? So of course 17 would hold his own now.

Power levels only make sense anymore at maybe the most basic level (i.e. what is established of the power hierarchy of the gods), but beyond that, nada.

I don't think that clip in the preview was 17 vs SSB Goku. But of them against whatever appears.

Poor Cabba though getting yelled at by Champa. At this rate Goku is gonna get knocked out of the ring in two seconds... I bet Buu sleeps through the tournament again also. He is so sleepy after all. And when did Piccolo leave Kamis lookout as his home?

Enjoyed the Buu vs Goku battle.

So Buu's change in appearance isn't the result of shapeshifting but simply getting more physically fit through training? Interesting, didn't realize a magical being like a Majin could change naturally like that, and while I do welcome it, get the feeling I may miss the old Buu, as the fat form is probably the most iconic. Well if he can change that fast through a little training, he'll prolly be back to his fat self by a certain point after he stops.

And cool, the universe 11 Beerus race fella is part of the pride troopers.

A very little training. It's been 3 hours their time. Just imagine how powerful he could get in a little time in the spirit and time room after getting noticeable more powerful, and slim in just 3 hours.

So you would say Buu has Frieza kind of potential or something?

More like it's just plot based cause Power Levels don't matter. Because Gohan, and Piccolo are going to end up stronger.. And it's only going to be a day of training.

True. If power levels didn't get thrown out the window for the most part like this, even Gohan would have almost no chance at catching up/bouncing back. There's arguably more pros than cons for all this.

Originally posted by Kento
More like it's just plot based cause Power Levels don't matter. Because Gohan, and Piccolo are going to end up stronger.. And it's only going to be a day of training.

Depends on the training tbh. Piccolo got Gohan extremely powerful within a short amount of time. To the point that he was going fist cuff with some of the most powerful beings in the Universe and before the training, Gohan didn't know how to fly let alone shoot a Kai blast.

This episode wasn't too shabby. This show is a hell of a lot better once you shut your brain off about the stuff that makes zero sense and just enjoy it for what it is.

To be fair, that can be said about a lot of things or shows, though I agree.

Universe 11 Matchup Predictions:

Goku vs Jiren
Vegeta vs Toppo
Gohan vs Dyspo (Beerus looking guy)
Android 17 vs Kahseral (army looking dude)

Originally posted by carver9
Depends on the training tbh. Piccolo got Gohan extremely powerful within a short amount of time. To the point that he was going fist cuff with some of the most powerful beings in the Universe and before the training, Gohan didn't know how to fly let alone shoot a Kai blast.
A year of hard, intense training, to bring out power than Gohan already had shown to have is a tiny bit different. I mean Goten couldn't fly, or shoot ki beams and could go super saiyan while being trained by Chichi. That's a lot more in the same ballpark of weird, and makes no sense. Except Buu, and everything being stronger/power levels not being end all for this tournament is crucial to the plot so they aren't just stomped.

So currently the most powerful members of Universe 7:

Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Buu
Piccolo
No. 17
No. 18
Tien
Krillin
Roshi (although Yamcha is more powerful)

Goku vs. Jiren should be spectacular.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Just watched the 86th episode preview. Good god. Looks like Goku has to go SSB against Android 17 too. *sigh*

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CreatorsApathy?from=Main.TheyJustDidntCare

The "s" in dbs really stands for shit. 😉

Can't even wait for Android 17. He needs to switch to his classic look but man he's gonna kick some ass.

Something that doesnt sit well with me about the whole training thing in DBS , is that some of these power increases are large that 15 minutes of crunches would have effectively made the character strong enough to beat his nemesis.

I just seen the preview. It's not entirely impossible that 17 could be close to par with Goku by now.

Remember, it's been like 10 yrs since the Cell Saga. If 17, who was originally stronger than SSJ1, has been training all this time, then he could really be strong as Golden Frieza or higher. Since, I recall Toriyama stating 17 has great potential and infinite energy reserves, that other characters don't have access to.

OR its just Goku holding back again! 🙄

Goku holding back again.