Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Started by Yamcha633 pages

They should of gave the power boost to Yamcha. Gohan is kind of a given, he's always been this wellspring of limitless untapped potential, he's supposed to have no ceiling, he just would rather read books and pet his kid or whatever. Yamcha though, if the desert bandit got that power up, sure some people would be upset, but we need SSB level Wolf Attacks...it's what the quiet majority want, the infinite masses that are too silent to speak but their heart cries out for JUSTICE.

Originally posted by carver9
He seems to be pretty got darn powerful right now...on par with Goku tbh. This is the most respect they have ever given Vegeta imo.

Except for his first appearance where he was well above Goku.

Delivered the worst beating of Goku's career.

Had to be saved by Krillin and Yajarobi, of all people. That's just embarressing.

But he had to cheat by turning into oozaru.....

If that's cheating, then what kaio-ken is? lol

Only because he didnt know Goku was done already. If he'd just flown back down, he'd have wrecked shop without his giant monkey....form.

Yeah. Vegeta would've been able to finish him off if he wasn't being cautious/wary of Goku's kaioken.

Surprising how Vegeta got dumber the more screen time he was given lol. He took no chances and went straight to Ape form when he felt a legit threat from Goku.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Only because he didnt know Goku was done already. If he'd just flown back down, he'd have wrecked shop without his giant monkey....form.

👆

Goku's muscles were tearing just from maintaining Kaio-Ken. It was Vegeta's fight to lose.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah. Vegeta would've been able to finish him off if he wasn't being cautious/wary of Goku's kaioken.

Surprising how Vegeta got dumber the more screen time he was given lol. He took no chances and went straight to Ape form when he felt a legit threat from Goku.

The outcome was still the same, he wrecked Goku. His friends saved him.

Originally posted by Estacado

Hit will prolly lose to Toppo...imo

Only Goku or Jiren should really beat Hit.

People need to remember only Goku was smart enough to figure out how Hit's abilities/techniques work.

Jiren may be able to beat him outright depending on how beastly he is. But even at SSB x10, I don't think Goku can beat Hit if he didn't figure out he was hiding in another dimension in their rematch.

If Hit went for full-on vital/nerve point hits on Goku in kill mode, he could've taken Goku out before Goku figured out how to attack him.

You could argue that Vegeta now knows Hit's tricks, but that doesn't guarantee Vegeta would win.

Two reasons:

1. Goku only stalemated Hit in their rematch (AND Hit didn't use time skip IIRC). Given this SSB drains energy BS that we are seeing lately, if they continued to fight, possibly Hit would outlast him.

2. Hit could have improved over time. We know he boosted his time skip ability significantly in a very short amount of time.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Hit had some other special time/dimension abilities up his sleeve.

Originally posted by Yamcha
They should of gave the power boost to Yamcha. Gohan is kind of a given, he's always been this wellspring of limitless untapped potential, he's supposed to have no ceiling, he just would rather read books and pet his kid or whatever. Yamcha though, if the desert bandit got that power up, sure some people would be upset, but we need SSB level Wolf Attacks...it's what the quiet majority want, the infinite masses that are too silent to speak but their heart cries out for [b]JUSTICE. [/B]

Yamcha, Tien and Krillin should absurdly be more powerful than Roshi, no matter of Roshi secret training. Yamcha has also far more experience against really powerful opponents, even beating them (those from Namek saga) in Cell saga he further increased his power. At least it should be still considered that he is really powerful human, far more than Roshi. What happened with Roshi is the worst that has ever happened in DB universe.

Vegeta should be able to beat Hit.

Originally posted by Placidity
Only Goku or Jiren should really beat Hit.

People need to remember only Goku was smart enough to figure out how Hit's abilities/techniques work.

Jiren may be able to beat him outright depending on how beastly he is. But even at SSB x10, I don't think Goku can beat Hit if he didn't figure out he was hiding in another dimension in their rematch.

If Hit went for full-on vital/nerve point hits on Goku in kill mode, he could've taken Goku out before Goku figured out how to attack him.

You could argue that Vegeta now knows Hit's tricks, but that doesn't guarantee Vegeta would win.

Two reasons:

1. Goku only stalemated Hit in their rematch (AND Hit didn't use time skip IIRC). Given this SSB drains energy BS that we are seeing lately, if they continued to fight, possibly Hit would outlast him.

2. Hit could have improved over time. We know he boosted his time skip ability significantly in a very short amount of time.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Hit had some other special time/dimension abilities up his sleeve.

Goku got to observe Hit in action, and Vegeta was drained from fighting two match's prior and using the stamina draining blue form.

Manga even made the point Vegeta would have won, and anime and manga are based off the same script. Vegeta likely defeats Hit now.

It's not like Hit is an impossible, unbeatable opponent, like Superman.

Wasn't Vegeta slowly figuring out Hit's gimmick before he lost?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Wasn't Vegeta slowly figuring out Hit's gimmick before he lost?

In fact he was. 👆

It wasn't a fair fight, given his previous match's, and incomparable to a fresh Goku who got to watch the fight play out.

At the end of the day, the fault falls on Vegeta for underestimating Hit and not conserving as much power/energy from his previous matches as he could've. Cabba in particular he could've ringed out without even transforming but he went SSJ Blue there for show-off purposes. 😬

Yeah but Vegeta is as good a candidate as Goku to beat him. Its all.

But knowing how DB rolls....good luck with that happening lol.

Oh yeah, fair enough on that. I agree Vegeta could beat Hit if he played his cards right.

Just don't like or agree with the idea of Hit being a scrub in this tournament of power who'll go down easily by some lame tactic like this:

Originally posted by NewGuy01
What if Hit fights Frieza and gets discreetly backstabbed by Frost?

I would like Vegeta to get a cool new technique man. Something he been working on. Something ki-blast related. Since he favors spamming ki so much

Gamma burst flash as per manga...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
What if Hit fights Frieza and gets discreetly backstabbed by Frost?
I'm sure Frost is smart enough to notice a whole universe and fighters erased in front of him. What deal can Frieza give Frost anyways?