Originally posted by carver9Yeah, it is getting harder and harder for me to think of a feasible scenario where Goku can save the day -- at this point he's so drained that most anyone at the ToP can best him.
Yep. I hope this happens. I think Goku is going to get knocked out of the ring. He is too fatigue.
...Unless, of course, he gets inextricably healed/recharged. While that wouldn't surprise me one bit given that DBS has basically turned into "The Goku Show"(with special guest appearances by his pesky sidekick Vegeta), I'd still MUCH rather see Gohan step up again... Remind us why he was always considered to be more powerful than Goku.
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Originally posted by carver9Zen-Oh isn't a 'fighter' per se, so I don't see him blocking Hit's melee or w/e. However, I am also of the opinion that Zen-Oh is about as invulnerable as a character can be in DB -- so he doesn't *need* to block anything.
Question... if Hit was serious and he was hired to kill Zeno, could Hit use time stop, blitz over, use killing blows in the heart area... would it kill Zeno? What do you think the results would be?
That said, I think if Hit were to strike him repeatedly in 'kill points', Zen-Oh would tank them outright(though he'd likely get knocked down/back a bit), then proceed to stand back up...dust off his robes...and erase Hit from existence with the snap his fingers.
i think Zenos bodyguards are just a formality. a guy who can delete anything he doesnt like really doesnt need guarding.
another question-
what's the totem pole look like for all the Gods? Not asking about their power, Im more asking about status. like, i know that Zeno rules all, so he's at the top of the totem pole. and i know kami is at the lower end because he only watches one planet. but where do all the other Gods fit into the scheme of things?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXPurely status only?
i think Zenos bodyguards are just a formality. a guy who can delete anything he doesnt like really doesnt need guarding.another question-
what's the totem pole look like for all the Gods? Not asking about their power, Im more asking about status. like, i know that Zeno rules all, so he's at the top of the totem pole. and i know kami is at the lower end because he only watches one planet. but where do all the other Gods fit into the scheme of things?
Zen-Oh(lord of ALL universes) > Daishinkan(Zen-Oh's personal attendant and overseer of the multiverse) > 12 Kaioshin(universal creators/guardians) = 12 Gods of Destruction(universal destroyers) = 12 Guide Angels > Grand Kaio(lord of the Kaio) > King Kai and all of the other Kaio(who each oversee a portion of the universe) > Kami(planetary guardian) > mortals.
*Even though the Grand Kaio has pretty much been retconned away, I still included him because he existed at one point(aside from being shown in a few filler episodes, Piccolo also mentioned him in the manga.)
*It's also worth noting that eons ago there was a "Dai" Kaioshin(lord of the 4 Kaioshin that once resided in U7) -- absorbing him is why Buff Boo reverted into Fat Boo. However, that title/rank seems to have also been retconned, as each universe only has ONE official Kaioshin these days. /shrug
Originally posted by carver9As of current continuity, there is only one 'official' Kaioshin in each universe -- just like there is only one GoD in each universe. However, each Kaioshin is allowed to have apprentices(ie. Zamasu), servants(ie. Kibito), and mentors(ie. Old Kai).
Is there anything saying that there is only 1 in each universe?
Although from an in-story standpoint, it is possible that U7 was permitted to have multiple Kaioshin eons ago due to its very low mortal count. After all, FIVE Kaioshin all creating life throughout the universe would help boost the mortal count to a normal level, and help balance out all the random destruction that Pure Boo had been wreaking since time immemorial(I, for one, think Pure Boo caused a LOT more senseless destruction than even Beerus over the years -- that's why I'm surprised Beerus never erased him.)
...The more likely option, however, is that when Toriyama originally wrote the Boo arc decades ago, none of this shit was a consideration. There obviously weren't multiple universes, nor were there Destroyers/Angels/Zen-Oh/etc. to consider, nor were Kaioshin defined as universal creators of life or w/e... They were just elf-looking beings who vaguely monitored the universe -- didn't matter how many of them there were. /shrug