Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

Originally posted by carver9
Would this mean that a Black Hole is fodder to people like Beerus, Whis and Jiren?

srug

That said, a black hole wouldn't even register as a blip on the radar of beings with GoD-level power, tbh... Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Goku asked Whis to whip one up for him at some point, because he thinks the gravity would be fun to train in. 😂

And again: the fact that a Kamehameha from an immensely weakened Goku overpowered the forces of the black hole, and breached/shattered it entirely, definitively proves that *charged* ki blasts in DB are FTL... We no longer need to speculate such with calcs gleaned from Roshi and Piccolo's moon-busting feats back in the day, lol.

...So just imagine how fast the attacks of *full* power God-level beings are!? 😖

Originally posted by NewGuy01
What did they have to lose?

The ability to win. It's not as if they were on the losing end.

They can't even handle a sauna without almost passing out, that was a really weak gravity well beneath a true black hole, or just standard inconsistent Super writing. 😆

Those weaklings can't even survive the vaccume of space. Freeze killed Vegeta by space vaccume, that's just pathetic for a high herald.

Originally posted by cdtm
They can't even handle a sauna without almost passing out, that was a really weak gravity well beneath a true black hole, or just standard inconsistent Super writing. 😆

Those weaklings can't even survive the vaccume of space. Freeze killed Vegeta by space vaccume, that's just pathetic for a high herald.

You're trolling again. It's like me bringing up Superman almost dying twice by a Nuke which means Master Roshi would kill him with a glancing blast. I can also bring up teen Goku tanking a blast>>>>a nuke and use that as proof of baby Goku being more powerful than Superman but what's the point? Now stop "trying" to lowball and grow up.

Originally posted by carver9
You're trolling again. It's like me bringing up Superman almost dying twice by a Nuke which means Master Roshi would kill him with a glancing blast. I can also bring up teen Goku tanking a blast>>>>a nuke and use that as proof of baby Goku being more powerful than Superman but what's the point? Now stop "trying" to lowball and grow up.

True. 👆

Cdtm isn't funny anymore.

Nope. He has become boring and his posts are obvious.

You're the only one who brought up Superman, genius.

Even He-Man could last longer in a hard vaccume then Vegeta did, and he has a fairly mundane, if enhanced, lung capacity.

But I guess Vegeta can't just hold his breath and be rescued? Or maybe a vaccume outright killed him..

man what a sad episode. universe 2's death was sad enough, but man it was hard to see universe 6 go. 🙁

Originally posted by cdtm
You're the only one who brought up Superman, genius.

Even He-Man could last longer in a hard vaccume then Vegeta did, and he has a fairly mundane, if enhanced, lung capacity.

But I guess Vegeta can't just hold his breath and be rescued? Or maybe a vaccume outright killed him..

Sakki one-shot KO Superman in one attack.

Goku would vaporize him.

Ok?

You guys sure do have a fixation with Superman. 😕

Originally posted by cdtm
Ok?

You guys sure do have a fixation with Superman. 😕

We don't.

You compared Superman's feats with Black Holes to Goku...

Daishinkan came off as one evil/calloused mofo when he announced the erasure of U2 & U6:

...Damn. none

Zeno is a lot scarier, like a kid at an amusement park.

Originally posted by Galan007
Daishinkan came off as one evil/calloused mofo when he announced the erasure of U2 & U6:

...Damn. none

Here.

I still don't think Grand Priest is going to end up evil.

Originally posted by Galan007
The black hole was already borderline fodder to an extremely weakened base Goku, tbh. I mean, this certainly isn't the look of a guy who is immensely struggling to cope with its forces, after all:

srug

That said, a black hole wouldn't even register as a blip on the radar of beings with GoD-level power, tbh... Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Goku asked Whis to whip one up for him at some point, because he thinks the gravity would be fun to train in. 😂

And again: the fact that a Kamehameha from an immensely weakened Goku overpowered the forces of the black hole, and breached/shattered it entirely, definitively proves that *charged* ki blasts in DB are FTL... We no longer need to speculate such with calcs gleaned from Roshi and Piccolo's moon-busting feats back in the day, lol.

...So just imagine how fast the attacks of *full* power God-level beings are!? 😖

In regards to the blasts becoming faster the more powerful you are, I thought that was acknowledged during the Frieza saga...

YouTube video

They couldn't even see the attack coming or follow it. People always said Frieza hand blast was>>>light but I guess this showing makes it even more concrete.

Ki blasts DO become faster the more powerful they are -- this very episode confirms as much.

When the black hole was first manifested, #18 fired a small/generic ki blast at the 'Love Trio', and it was immediately pulled in/absorbed... When Goku fired his Kamehameha, however, the results were obviously much different.

Originally posted by Kento
I still don't think Grand Priest is going to end up evil.

After all, every universe has a Destroyer -- and Zen-Oh is THE most powerful Destroyer in existence(his power of destruction is why even GoDs fear him.) Likewise, the Destroyers of each universe are all accompanied by a Guide Angel that can stop them from rampaging when the need arises -- and Daishinkan is THE most powerful Angel in existence(by a HUGE margin, according to Whis himself)... So perhaps Daishinkan is the Whis to Zen-Oh's Beerus..? That's the reveal I'm waiting for, honestly.

Though if Daishinkan also ends up being malevolent, it'd be one hell of a twist... I can't even begin to imagine how a situation like THAT would be managed, tbh. I mean, even with what we know about him *now*, Daishinkan could still trounce every GoD and Angel simultaneously. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
I have mixed feelings where he is concerned, if only because I'm not yet sure what his exact capacity/role is(aside from Zen-Oh's attendant/father figure.) I've said it numerous times now, but I will not at all be surprised if Daishinkan is ultimately revealed to be more powerful than Zen-Oh, with the power to put him in check if the need arises.

After all, every universe has a Destroyer -- and Zen-Oh is THE most powerful Destroyer in existence(his power of destruction is why even GoDs shit their pants at the mention of his name.) Likewise, the Destroyers of each universe are all accompanied by a Guide Angel that can stop them from rampaging when the need arises -- and Daishinkan is THE most powerful Angel in existence(by a HUGE margin, according to Whis himself)... So perhaps Daishinkan is the Whis to Zen-Oh's Beerus..? That's the reveal I'm waiting for, honestly.

...Though if Daishinkan also ends up being malevolent, it'd be one hell of a twist . I can't even begin to imagine how a situation like THAT would be managed..? 😕

If he is evil, who could stop him (besides Zeno). There isn't a thing anyone could do to prevent whatever intentions he have from existing.