Dragon Ball Discussion Thread

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Originally posted by carver9
I think the last fights are going to be Jiren/Toppo vs Vegeta/Goku.

It could be.
Toppo whooops Frieza and 17 in god mode next episode, then Vegeta beats Toppo and Goku beats Jiren after mastering UI.

Toppo really is god of destruction level wtf

then Jiren really is firmly above god of destruction level

how the **** was universe 11 allowed in this tournament

as far as it ending im sure this time next year we'll get Dragonball Ultra Mega diamond or some shit, seems they realized the writing was trash and want to let the manga get ahead and get better writers for the anime

If it comes down to Vegeta beating GoD Toppo then even Vegeta would be getting dangerously close to Beerus’ level... Yeah, wrapping it up with this would be a good time before they start having them progress toward the Angels’ levels or some shit, ffs.

Ridley_Prime Glad DBS is ending because of this episode or because you feel the ToP is what they should wrap it up with?

At first I was just glad Gohan’s sacrifice had some meaning to it for taking Dypso with him, as his elimination could’ve been far worse, but the more I think about it now, the less pleased I still am with the outcome. I like 17, but he had no business outlasting both Gohan and Piccolo, and is a minor character when compared to them and most of the team. After the feat against Anilaza was when he should’ve gone down next at the very least.

I wasn’t expecting Gohan to relive his glory days of Z with a groundbreaking power-up and save the day, but my condolences still to those who were or were hoping. Even if he still lagged behind Goku and Vegeta, he should’ve gotten a bit more than this. Now the fighting against Toppo won’t feel as impactful unless Goku or Vegeta stop fighting Jiren for a bit to focus on GoD Toppo.

Honestly RD, only because of how Gohan left. Nothing else. At least some glimpse of him or indication of his ultimate form. And now that DBS is ending, it means Gohan stays at what he is. Like you said, I didn't expect his glory from DBZ (but I did hope for it). Vegeta mentioning in DBS Gohan has greatest potential, episode 90 indicating his ultimate form and then nothing, it really felt empty how he left.

So, how powerful does everyone think hakaishin Toppo will be? Above Kefla/Aniraza/Hit? Below Current Vegeta/Goku?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So, how powerful does everyone think hakaishin Toppo will be? Above Kefla/Aniraza/Hit? Below Current Vegeta/Goku?

Probably.

I honestly think Hakaishin Toppo can and will give Vegeta and Goku a run for their money....

Spoiler:
episode 126 is titled "Surpass a God?! Vegeta's Life-Risking Blow," which I'm assuming is referring to Vegeta going balls to the walls to defeat Toppo, or something.

There's also the fact that the U1 kaioshin referred to UI as an "attempt to reach the state of the gods," whereas Toppo is legit about to become a God. 🙂

Toppo will be giving Vegeta trouble until he does some crazy shit in the process he gets hurt badly or just out of stamina.

Someone said the "Life-Risking Blow" is not an attack but more like a power up thing.

Here is hoping for Vegeta getting something as powerful as UI.

I mean on the new pic he is back to back with UI Goku eyes are kinda similar.

https://otakukart.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DS94qUaW4AEx4f4.jpg

My ideal ending for this tournament is Toppo taking out 17, Vegeta taking out Toppo, Jiren then taking out Vegeta, Goku and Jiren taking each other out simultaneously and then Frieza being the last man standing . . . just as he planned. That would be awesome! 😉

I'm going to be sad to see 17 go after being such a mvp for the last 9,235 episodes of the ToP. Cause no way is he staying in after Toppo powers up.

I'm kinda surprised he even made it this far frankly..

TBH Toppo should have like 2 punched 17 ages ago....

No one is one punching anyone in the tournament of power when they have to hold back tremendously due to possibly killing their opponent.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So, how powerful does everyone think hakaishin Toppo will be? Above Kefla/Aniraza/Hit? Below Current Vegeta/Goku?

Above everyone minus Jiren, Goku, and Vegeta.

Why would anyone want Frieza being the last man standing? If this happens, what could anyone do to stop him after he makes his wish?

I think God Toppo SHOULD be above current KK Goku and Super Vegeta I mean he is supposed to God of destruction lvl so those 2 should be weaker then him.

They could give him hell in a 2 on 1 fight but I cant see either beating him alone.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
So, how powerful does everyone think hakaishin Toppo will be? Above Kefla/Aniraza/Hit? Below Current Vegeta/Goku?
Compared to the likes of current Goku/Vegeta/Jiren, the power of Kefla/Aniraza/Hit has basically dwindled into the realm of insignificance now, if I'm being honest. Hakaishin-Toppo should be WELL above them, imo.

If indeed Toppo does become a full-fledged Hakaishin next episode, I expect him to be no less than equal to current SSB+KK Goku or ASSB Vegeta individually -- and it is entirely possible that he will be even MORE powerful than either of them, tbh. Their saving grace is that Toppo will probably have to acclimate to his newfound Godhood/ki to an extent(much like Goku had to when he first became SSG, for instance.) IOW, Hakaishin-Toppo will technically be at his weakest/most vulnerable right after he attains said power -- but the longer he fights, the more powerful he will become.

...All of that being said, I believe ASSB Vegeta will ultimately be the one who beats Toppo, but it will come at the expense of his own well-being(I believe that is what the title for episode 126 implies.) And Vegeta's defeat(possibly death..?) will be the final 'trigger' Goku needs to activate UI for a final time.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
There's also the fact that the U1 kaioshin referred to UI as an "attempt to reach the state of the gods," whereas Toppo is legit about to become a God. 🙂
Toppo might gain the raw power of a God/Hakaishin, but his overall fighting ability will stay the same(albeit with his physical stats amped as a corollary)... That's why he still likely wouldn't be able to touch UI Goku, for example.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would anyone want Frieza being the last man standing? If this happens, what could anyone do to stop him after he makes his wish?
Exactly! Tension. Drama! It's out of the fire and into the frying pan for our heroes as they have a new problem to deal with altogether. Sets up the next arc perfectly, assuming the series isn't ending here.

The only way they could beat him is by becoming more powerful than Zeno which is what we want to avoid here.

Fuji TV was asked about the end of DBS...

Is Dragon Ball Super ending?
Yes, the series presently on air will end here for now.

Really? So it's not just changing to another timeslot?
-At present it is ending; beyond that is still undecided.

That means that the "Universe Survival arc" will wrap up?
-That's right. The "Universe Survival arc" will conclude at the end of March.

Will there be a sequel?
-Currently it is undecided so there is nothing I can tell you, but when something is decided we will put out a press release.

Even though it's purposefully vague, the interview does tell us that there are currently NOT any plans for the series continuing beyond the Universe Survival arc... So IF the show isn't permanently ending in March, it is undoubtedly on an extended hiatus.