DBS Manga 35-
Goku's amazed that Hit sends Jiren flying with an ordinary kick. He can fight without using Time-Skip?! Hit explains that after Goku beat his Time-Skip, he's stopped relying on just his special abilities. Then he de-skirts, and they continue fighting Jiren:
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Whis: "To think that Goku and Hit would team up. How rare."
Beerus: "Whatever, just knock that guy out!"
Goku: "Damn! He's not changing his expression at all!"
Hit: "We're not going to make any progress like this!"
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Hit: "What's the matter?"
Goku: "There's another wall I gotta overcome."
Hit: "Wall? You mean a transformation above Blue?"
Goku: "Something like that."
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Hit's latest ability: Time-Shift. "It cuts off only Jiren's time, slowing the speed at which he advances."
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Goku: "Watch out, Hit!! Jiren's still not giving his all!"
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Seeing how easily Universe 9 was destroyed, the Gods of Destruction for U1/5/8/12 are glad their own universes are exempt from the tournament.
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We also see Dyspo toying with SSJ Goku a bit:
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Hit is one of the very few characters that the anime actually did better.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZStill impossible to say. Both handled MSSB effortlessly.
So how does Jiren stack up to Beerus based on their performances against MSSJB?
...Surprised we're not seeing KK at all in the manga's ToP, though.
Hit is exactly how strong he should be, he was overpowered in the anime.
He's still incredibly strong compared to most. Anime simply overblew him, along with unnecessary additional amps for Goku and Vegeta to compensate.
Anyways, as long as Whis is portrayed well. She's my favorite pre op trans woman ever.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZNot really from what I can tell.
Damn. I was hoping the manga would give more clarity in that regard.
A suppressed Jiren was essentially stalemating MSSB Goku and Hit(who seems to be ~ MSSB Goku in the manga) with one arm each. When Jiren finally got a more serious, he overpowered Jiren's temporal manipulation, and pwned him.
Flip side, Beerus was also "playing around" with MSSB Vegeta, and proceeded to one-shot pwn him when he got a little pissed.
Hard to gather anything from that, tbh... Still hoping we get some *explicit* statements/showings in the manga in regards to how Jiren compares to Beerus, though.
Originally posted by Galan007
Hit is one of the very few characters that the anime actually did better.
Not so sure about that with regards to the U6 Tournament arc. The idea that even without his assassination techniques, Hit (who isn't a god, and doesn't train) is dozens of times stronger than a Super Saiyan God--which is several classes above the likes of Majin Buu--is retarded.
The anime handled him far better since then, though, and I agree that his depiction in the manga's ToP was pitiful.
Originally posted by NewGuy01It was odd that Hit was uber retarded powerful but his day job was knocking off regular beings. DBS has no sense of proportion.
Not so sure about that with regards to the U6 Tournament arc. The idea that even without his assassination techniques, Hit (who isn't a god, and doesn't train) is dozens of times stronger than a Super Saiyan God--which is several classes above the likes of Majin Buu--is retarded.The anime handled him far better since then, though, and I agree that his depiction in the manga's ToP was pitiful.
Originally posted by NewGuy01Far less retarded than Freeza attaining SSB-level with four months of random training with Tagoma... Or Goku and Vegeta boosting their powers by several orders of magnitude in, like, 30mins. 😛
Not so sure about that with regards to the U6 Tournament arc. The idea that even without his assassination techniques, Hit (who isn't a god, and doesn't train) is dozens of times stronger than a Super Saiyan God--which is several classes above the likes of Majin Buu--is retarded.
I mean, at least Hit had special techniques/abilities to help put him on that level, was hundreds of years old, and had some sort of inherent adapt on the fly ability that allowed him to expand said abilities in the heat of battle. /shrug
