Originally posted by SunRazer
It wasn't a ragdoll, lol. They stood right back up, and even the non-Force sensitives were unharmed.
The term 'ragdoll' is pretty much meaningless, it doesn't have a precise definition.
It's often used to refer to someone being thrown around, but *most* people thrown around get back up unless they happen to hit something badly. Sometimes it takes a bit to shake themselves off, but force pushes are rarely KOs.
Re: How did you feel about H.O.T. losing all his hype?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Back before the DLC's came out, almost everyone believed H.O.T. was an extreme powerhouse, possibly above a full-powered Vitiate.How did you feel when you realized that wasn't the case?
Were you happy that Revan was the big powerhouse again?
Or were you disappointed when H.O.T. wasn't what he promised?
Honestly I'm pleased. Over-powered and invincible characters are boring.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66In the respect that if there is evidence to suggest that in-game fights in SWTOR are governed by game mechanics, as opposed to lore, the validity of all in-game fights, in their entirety, should be brought into question.
How so?
Just in the same way that based on the fact that Starkiller shows various super-powered feats we know him not to be capable of, in-game, we don't treat in-game material in TFU as a whole as reliable.
And this isn't the first time we've been given cause to doubt SWTOR's accuracy. Take the Malgus boss fight for example, when he Force chokes for a considerable period of time a random player (while fighting the other players no less) a player that can be the Wrath, Nox, the HoT or the Baresenthor - all at the height of their power - and would hence suggest he eclipses them in ability. But that is just not true.
Its quite obvious that when scripting boss mechanics, BioWare doesn't pay much attention to lore, or make much of an attempt to reflect canon, so we shouldn't pretend as if they do, and pretend that this stuff is reliable.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Wrath was injured. 😬 And no, Marr/Shan/Beniko were ragdolled:
I still call ritual bullshit on that, something to do with the pillars. Its clearly not a TK ragdoll, its something else bizarre. Is there anything you can see by clicking on Revan while that's happening?
How was the protag injured?
Originally posted by SunRazer
So the protag must be far above Shan and Marr, then? lol
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Though that kinda invalidates Marr's abilities being "second to none". 😬
Also inb4 they both become raid bosses and toss around teams themselves because F*CK YO LOGIC!
Originally posted by NephthysHmmm, hadn't noticed the connection with the pillars, interesting.
I still call ritual bullshit on that, something to do with the pillars. Its clearly not a TK ragdoll, its something else bizarre. Is there anything you can see by clicking on Revan while that's happening?
I think that would reinforce the fact Revan was using the temple/Yavin 4 as an amp.
Force Destruction is a canonical power - Revan did it. And no, it has nothing to do with the pillars if you run over and look close.
Plus, the ritual isn't doing anything to Shan/Marr/Beniko. While in Whirlwind, it says "[They are] slowly being destroyed by Revan."
The colored orbs are obviously Spirit Revan helping you out, lol. 😬 He also probably protected the Wrath from the Force Whirlwind.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66By Revan's ritual, same thing tbh.
Force Destruction is a canonical power - Revan did it. And no, it has nothing to do with the pillars if you run over and look close.
Plus, the ritual isn't doing anything to Shan/Marr/Beniko. While in Whirlwind, it says "[They are] slowly being destroyed by Revan."The colored orbs are obviously Spirit Revan helping you out, lol. 😬 He also probably protected the Wrath from the Force Whirlwind.
And they are pretty centered on those pillars, it doesn't make a great deal of sense that Revan would be so exact.
Using these orbs as a counter also indicates a level of complexity.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66If your referring to the cutscene Force wave, that doesn't even happen in every playthrough.
He was struggling to rise after the blast.
Revan's ritual plan was to use the Temple of Sacrifice. His backup was to head over inside the Emperor's Sanctuary and whip out another ritual. His third plan was to kill every living thing on the planet by hand (not even joking).
The area where they fought him wasn't a place for any of the three rituals. It was literally just a larger version of these platforms scattered throughout Yavin IV (ex: you fight Lord Darkspanner on one).
Unless you can provide evidence that ground was specifically for a separate ritual never discussed, and that Revan can activate a ritual mid-combat, then your baseless speculation isn't really going to get you anywhere.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Force Destruction is a canonical power - Revan did it. And no, it has nothing to do with the pillars if you run over and look close.
Plus, the ritual isn't doing anything to Shan/Marr/Beniko. While in Whirlwind, it says "[They are] slowly being destroyed by Revan."The colored orbs are obviously Spirit Revan helping you out, lol. 😬 He also probably protected the Wrath from the Force Whirlwind.
Dark Destruction an entire 50% different in words than Force Destruction bro. It's similar but obviously not the same, Force Destruction isn't that protracted. Also I don't believe you about the pillars.
Uh, yeah. I didn't think Darth Smooples was doing the ritual, I thought it was Revan killing them. Thanks for admitting it was a ritual though.
Prove it was spirit Revan or gtfo.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Prove it was spirit Revan or gtfo.
Based off the descriptions, it makes me to believe Spirit Revan is involved, since he was involved in the Temple of Sacrifice battle too.
Plus it was obvious he was watching the fight - and had the power to perform feats like that.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Sure, it is the SWTOR variant.I meant if it was a hypothetical ritual, it wasn't doing anything. 😬
AKA a completely different technique. 👆
Pretty sure it was.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The orbs are said to be a "Dark Side Shroud" and a "Light Side Echo."Based off the descriptions, it makes me to believe Spirit Revan is involved, since he was involved in the Temple of Sacrifice battle too.
So you're assuming, awesome. 👆
Plus Spirit Revan wouldn't use the darkside surely.